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Post by aaaa on May 26, 2019 3:09:18 GMT -5
Leslie Gershman is her name. She was profiled in the September 1986 issue of TV Game $how Magazine. She doesn't bring up coming back for the TofC, but brings up the fact that she won $53,600, so they let her have her money. But this is the same show that let Bert Convy himself decide to give $20K to a contestant who said the tenth password "Inn" in 1985 a second or two after the buzzer.
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Post by johnnyo on Jul 11, 2019 14:34:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it equivalent. She didn't even start her answer before the buzzer sounded, yet Bert basically ignored the rule and gave her the $20,000 anyway. I only recently watched this episode, and there are two things here. Of course she failed to start the answer before the buzzer, and if the judges has chosen to apply that rule, then she would not have won. But once the judges decided to defer to Bert, and let him make the decision, then that became the actual rule in play. Whatever decision he makes is "correct", irrespective of anything else. It reminded me of episode 19 of CC, where Alex Trebek decided to give the contestant a car after some technical issues. In both cases, a contestant was awarded the big end game prize strictly at the discretion of the host. In a broader sense, I was reminded of "Quiz Show", where Barry and Enright defended their practice of feeding answers to the contestants by believing that game shows are primarily entertainment shows, and that they felt the integrity of the competition was secondary. (After all, professional wrestling today is very successful, even as fans accept that their "sport" is largely scripted.) Now, I enjoy a well structured game show as much as anyone, but there is no intrinsic reason why game shows have to have competitive integrity. Our society made a choice by passing a law requiring it in 1960, but that could be changed if society demanded it. That is why I support Bert's decision to award the $$, even though she was after the buzzer; it was more entertaining to award the prize. (I have noticed that SP was, in general, very generous with allowing clues to be given and puzzle guesses to be made despite sometimes being after the buzzer.)
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Post by dare2be on Jul 11, 2019 14:50:50 GMT -5
After all, professional wrestling is very successful, even as fans accept that their "sport" is largely scripted. Now, I enjoy a well structured game show as much as anyone, but there is no intrinsic reason why game shows have to have competitive integrity. Adhering to competitive integrity has allowed game shows to thrive, but it is a choice to follow it, and to what degree. I would be on board with your argument, except that is a poor analogy. Professional wrestlers are paid, regardless of the scripted outcome. Real contestants competing against each other for real money should have a basic level of competitive integrity. Not having it not only diminishes the fairness for the contestants, but could potentially sour a lot of viewers who might decide not to watch anymore, thinking it was "a joke". Both instances of awarding or not awarding the money had a potential impact on the current or future opponent (for SP, the jackpot would have risen and the next opponent would be playing for much more money...if they won the next match, and with Pyramid, the amount of money earned in the winners circle determines who gets to return next time.)
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Post by aaaa on Jul 11, 2019 15:55:48 GMT -5
Super Password did more tightly enforce the rule in the bonus round that you didn't get credit for saying a word after the celebrity passed on it. A guy playing for $50K with Janis Paige in 1986 had Janis pass on the word Frog, said the word after she said {ass, and then they went back to the word and he said the word a fraction of a second after the buzzer. Edie McClurg and her partner in another bonus got nine out of ten after passing on won, and Edie remained composed enough to get her partner to go back and say the passed word. When Bert Convy did get into game show producing with Burt Reynolds and Kline and Friends, Richard Kline did most of the heavy lifting production-wise.
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Post by danderson400 on Jul 11, 2019 22:34:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it equivalent. She didn't even start her answer before the buzzer sounded, yet Bert basically ignored the rule and gave her the $20,000 anyway. I only recently watched this episode, and there are two things here. Of course she failed to start the answer before the buzzer, and if the judges has chosen to apply that rule, then she would not have won. But once the judges decided to defer to Bert, and let him make the decision, then that became the actual rule in play. Whatever decision he makes is "correct", irrespective of anything else. It reminded me of episode 19 of CC, where Alex Trebek decided to give the contestant a car after some technical issues. In both cases, a contestant was awarded the big end game prize strictly at the discretion of the host. In a broader sense, I was reminded of "Quiz Show", where Barry and Enright defended their practice of feeding answers to the contestants by believing that game shows are primarily entertainment shows, and that they felt the integrity of the competition was secondary. (After all, professional wrestling today is very successful, even as fans accept that their "sport" is largely scripted.) Now, I enjoy a well structured game show as much as anyone, but there is no intrinsic reason why game shows have to have competitive integrity. Our society made a choice by passing a law requiring it in 1960, but that could be changed if society demanded it. That is why I support Bert's decision to award the $$, even though she was after the buzzer; it was more entertaining to award the prize. (I have noticed that SP was, in general, very generous with allowing clues to be given and puzzle guesses to be made despite sometimes being after the buzzer. On Wheel it has happened before, where a Bonus Round answer was started before the buzzer. On one case, Pat immediately ruled it a win, without checking with the judges. So "strictly at the discretion of the host" did occur on Wheel a few times.
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Post by vahan on Oct 10, 2019 18:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jan 14, 2020 16:35:56 GMT -5
Anyone happen to know what week of Password Plus was being taped on March 25th, 1979? I received a ticket from that taping day but it says "Plus Guest Stars" instead of listing celebrities.
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Post by vahan on Jan 14, 2020 17:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by ivoryface86 on Jan 14, 2020 18:28:15 GMT -5
Now here's what we're concerned about the seating, when Child's Play first went on the air, the returning champion was always seen on the right side of the screen, but then it was only a few weeks into the run where the previous episode's champion always switched seats after each episode. According to Ryan Rinkerman, the male contestant on The August 17, 1984 episode of Body Language was partnered with Nathan Cook but was partnered with another male celebrity on the August 20, 1984 show. Keep in mind, Body Language had gone through almost a full year before they had the idea of having 2 female contestants competing against each other. The first time Body Language broke the gender balance overall was when they had the L.A. Dodgers players on for the March 8, 1985 telecast, otherwise Body Language always had its contestants switched seats after each episode, but it wasn't the case with Lucille Ball in the December 1984 All-Star Christmas Week but the 3 other celebrities that week switched seats and the November 1985 CBS Soap Stars vs. Sports Stars Charity Week had them stayed in the same positions all week(which was also the week where Gene Wood was promoted as the new regular announcer). If any episodes from Tom Kennedy's tenure as host of Password Plus comes to mind, there was a time where the week was over with the current champion seen on the left but then a new slate of 5 episodes began and the current champion is seen on the right side of the screen and the week didn't begin with the Alphabetics end game.
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Post by pyramidfan on Jan 15, 2020 10:45:46 GMT -5
I just checked, and it was Debralee Scott and Nipsey Russell.
The premiere week was taped on both January 6th and 7th. The opening weeks of "Match Game '73" and "Super Password" were also taped over a two-day period, with MG taking a day off in between.
From what I've heard, Mark Goodson liked to tape some of his premiere weeks over two days in order to iron out any wrinkles midweek. That's why you see the lids on the "Super Password" handheld monitors starting Wednesday.
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Post by pyramidfan on Jan 15, 2020 10:48:38 GMT -5
According to Ryan Rinkerman, the male contestant on The August 17, 1984 episode of Body Language was partnered with Nathan Cook but was partnered with another male celebrity on the August 20, 1984 show. Actually, this is incorrect. The returning male champion, Bill, was partnered with Phyllis Diller on Monday, August 20, 1984. I remember this because they only got $100 in the bonus round that day. On the 21st, he was partnered with Brian Mitchell.
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Post by vahan on Jan 15, 2020 11:51:19 GMT -5
Ah, now that makes sense. I suspect for Family Feud, the first show was taped on one day, with the next four shows taped the next day.
And for The New Price Is Right, only the premiere was recorded on the first tape day.
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Post by ivoryface86 on Jan 17, 2020 16:51:20 GMT -5
According to Ryan Rinkerman, the male contestant on The August 17, 1984 episode of Body Language was partnered with Nathan Cook but was partnered with another male celebrity on the August 20, 1984 show. Actually, this is incorrect. The returning male champion, Bill, was partnered with Phyllis Diller on Monday, August 20, 1984. I remember this because they only got $100 in the bonus round that day. On the 21st, he was partnered with Brian Mitchell. Thanks again Brendan, Bill won the August 21, 1984 episode with Brian Mitchell and was again partnered with Phyliss Diller for the August 22 episode and won again to retire undefeated. Did you also know that Rory was also on Password Plus on one of the first weeks with the progressive jackpot era? He appeared on Body Language on June 29, 1984 and won $7000 with Shelley Smith as his partner.
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Post by CardSharksFan8689 on Jan 24, 2020 21:09:21 GMT -5
I saw this afternoon's broadcast of Super Password on the Buzzr stream on my tablet, and I got to ask a question about the airdate of an episode, with the following criteria:
1. Elaine Joyce and Nathan Cook are the celebrity players; 2. A total of five puzzles were played in the episode; and 3. Just before the final password of the show's second puzzle (with the answer GONDOLA), Bert jokingly remarked "I'm going on strike!" or along the lines.
What was the airdate of this particular episode?
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Post by vahan on Jan 24, 2020 21:22:01 GMT -5
May 16, 1985.
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