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Post by vahan on Nov 2, 2018 19:27:02 GMT -5
Today's second CC airing was 8/4/1987. THey are scheduled to go back to 5/4/1987 on Friday 11/9, as per their online schedule. THe last episode they'll air on 11/8 is the 8/14/1987 episode, assuming no more skips, which is the episode with the infamous Night Court solve based on an apple core. Incorrect. It was August 3. No show aired on July 28, 30, and 31 due to Iran-Contra. santabarbara-online.com/Calendar1987.htmmarkgoodson.wikia.com/wiki/Classic_Concentration/Episode_Guide/May-July_1987CardSharksFan8689 if I remember correctly, when you were trying to find out which dates Bob Eubanks' Card Sharks didn't air on CBS due to Iran-Contra, you used some sort of an episode guide of The Young and the Restless on a Soaps forum. Kinda like what I just did. Only difference is, Santa Barbara was an NBC Soap.
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Post by CardSharksFan8689 on Nov 5, 2018 13:03:11 GMT -5
Actually, I used the episode guide for Santa Barbara as a reference a few years ago, but now that I think about it, that may only apply for the latter part of the afternoon. Keep in mind that Classic Concentration was in the same time slot that Eubanks’ Card Sharks was back in 1987, and Sale of the Century was the lead-in to Classic Concentration. It’s possible that the pre-emption dates for Eubanks’ Card Sharks during the summer of 1987 may be an underestimation on my part, and it may be possible that the pre-emptions for Classic Concentration and Eubanks’ Card Sharks may be the same dates in which Sale of the Century was pre-empted during that period as well.
Someone apparently used archived copies of a certain local newspaper (through newspapers.com) as a reference for the Iran-Contra pre-emptions, which determined the official dates in which Sale of the Century was pre-empted in the summer of 1987. I think I may need to edit my Eubanks’ Card Sharks episode guide soon.
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Post by johnnyo on Dec 6, 2018 10:35:32 GMT -5
I have just finished watching episodes 14, 15 and 16 in the last couple of weeks. Comments:
- As discussed previously, the value of the Putting Green won in Episode 15 was never announced. It was the only prize won by that contestant, and a $$ value for her winnings was never announced in either episode 15, when she won the prize, or in episode 16, when played the first game as champ.
- Prior to winning the Putting Green (by buzzing in during an interrupted game), the contestant was actually timed out before selecting a second square during on her last turn. This is the first and (so far) only time this has happened.
- On episodes 15 & 16, the Champion Barry won the Bonus round twice, winning a 2 Door Buick Skyhawk both times.
- While the same 8 cares were used for episodes 1-10, two cars were switched out between episodes 15 & 16. In episodes 11-15, the cars were: Honda Civic, Jeep Cherokee, Dodge Daytona, Isuzu I-Mark, Suzuki Samurai, Buick Skyhawk, Renault GTA, and VW Fox. For episode 16, the Daytona and Civic were removed, replaced by a Pontiac Trans AM and a Mazda 323 (a car which had been available on episodes 1-10).
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Post by johnnyo on Dec 12, 2018 1:53:20 GMT -5
What a crazy bonus round after the first game on Episode 19! (Spoiler Alert!)
The bonus round was timed at 1:00, and started without incident. After 10 turns and three matches, with about 29 seconds left, the champ called out "15" as the first selection on their next turn. When box 14 was opened in error, the clock was stopped at 26 seconds. Trebek then explained the error. In the interest of fairness, 5 seconds was added to the clock. Box 14 was closed, and the correct box, #15, was opened. The clock resumed when the champ selected the next box. The round continued, but the contestant did not win a car.
Except that...
After the round was over, Trebek suggested that they just give the contestant a car anyway. It turned out that in addition to the inadvertent reveal, the regular monitor that the champ uses to see and play the bonus round went off line after the stoppage, and the champ was looking at a monitor over 30 feet away to finish the round. Looking back, the champ had made two comments toward the end of the round. In between the champ's 16th and 17th turns (with about 12 seconds left), the champ says "I can't see". Immediately after the round, the champ also said "I couldn't even see."
After the commercial, the champ was allowed to pick any car, and chose the GTA convertible.
To answer a question from upthread, Gene Wood gave the following information during the end credits, "Due to a Production error, a contestant's number selection in the end game was recreated and the program edited."
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Post by johnnyo on Dec 12, 2018 10:56:55 GMT -5
So, in thinking about this a little more, I think that the first part of that wacky end game must have been what was recreated.
In the show, when the wrong square was revealed, Trebek was immediately on point in describing the error and what the remedy would be. Frankly, I don't see how he could've known this information so quickly if they were playing and taping the end game "live".
What I am suggesting is that what we see in the show was a note-for-note recreation of how the end game initially unfolded "live", up until the point of the production error. That includes the the boxes selected, matches made, and the time remaining. What we see from the point the end game resumed was actually "live", and not a recreation.
Based on the contestant not making enough matches to win a car in the 31 remaining seconds after the end game resumed, I imagine that the second part of the end game (and what we see on the show) was played "live" immediately after the Production error, and the recreation was taped later. If the recreation had been taped first, it would have given the champ the great advantage of seeing all of the unmatched boxes again.
I am going to re-watch this, and look to see if there are noticeable edits.
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Post by someguy23475 on Jan 1, 2019 21:15:52 GMT -5
It’s been a treat watching all of these episodes for the first time since I was young (never got around to watching them on YouTube). It makes me even more disappointed that not many episodes from the original run exist. The few Downs and Clayton shows I have seen are far more challenging. Also, the motorized board is more interesting than the computerized. Something about the noises and a panel occasionally getting stuck adds to a great game.
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 15, 2019 10:13:14 GMT -5
A couple of oddities in episode # 21 of CC.
There was a new group of cars, but they were not introduced at all. They were introduced beginning with episode #22.
Alex seemed to be in a bit of a rush for the whole show. Not only did he jump right into the bonus round after the first game, failing to list the new group of cars, he also tried to throw it to a commercial immediately after the second game, before realizing he was skipping over Gene Wood describing the prizes.
I am through episode #24 now. I am making more of an effort to watch these, especially now that we are getting at least 30 fresh episodes in the next three weeks. I will be back soon with some more comments on the "unwinnable" cars in the bonus round, and also about the value of some of the prizes won in the main game.
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 16, 2019 0:38:38 GMT -5
Regarding "unwinnable" cars, the Alliance was unwinnable in 3 out of 4 games; bonus round 1 on ep. 23, and both bonus rounds on episode 24.
Regarding prize values, I never realized how many really cheap prizes were on this show. There is a pattern where if the contestant solves the puzzle with only one cheap prize, the $ value is just not announced (but it could calculated based on other announced winnings).
- In episode 3, Game 1, the contestant wins a Hot Tray worth only $40. The value is not announced; - In episode 8, Game 2, the contestant wins a Car Floodlight worth only $25. The value is not announced; - In episode 12, Game 1, the contestant wins a Tote Bag worth only $20. The value is not announced; - In episode 14, Game 1, the contestant wins an Opal Pendant worth only $40. The value is not announced; - In episode 22, Game 2, the contestant wins Sterling Earrings worth only $35. The value is not announced;
Additionally, there were two occasions where the champ only won one game with a cheap prize, and its value was never even hinted at: ep. 15, game 2 (putting green), and ep. 21 game 1 (ceramic vase).
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Post by vahan on Jan 16, 2019 1:43:29 GMT -5
Good prize value analysis, johnnyo. For episode 14, it was Game 1, not Game 2.
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 16, 2019 10:05:53 GMT -5
Thanks, for the comment, and for the correction.
I find myself mentally sorting the prizes as they are uncovered into cheap and decent categories. The featured prizes are always decent, as is any prize that is a trip, TV, Computer (the Apple IIc !), refrigerator, etc. But then there will be a set of chili bowls...
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Post by someguy23475 on Jan 16, 2019 11:22:43 GMT -5
Those values were on par with the original run- many were in the $10-$25 range.
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Post by vahan on Jan 18, 2019 14:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by vahan on Jan 21, 2019 2:03:01 GMT -5
Skimming through some later 1987 episodes, apparently, the Around the World Week followed the Kids Week on November 16-20. The first two episodes of the ATW Week used the same lineup of cars as the Kids Week, which was on November 09-13. Not to mention Robyn from the end of ATW Week appears just days before Thanksgiving.
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 23, 2019 15:35:47 GMT -5
Copying in relevant data from the general BUZZ thread. The episode that is referred to is episode # 76. The Angela I'm seeing on today's first airing of Classic Concentration is apparently the same one in the episode posted by Michael Pannoni from a November 1993 rerun. I'm guessing that episode in particular aired during the week of September 7. UPDATE: Now, I am seeing Max. Well, it's finally official. The Max Vs. Angela/Max Vs. Sharon episode originally aired on September 04, 1987. And best of all, the original parting gifts at the end of the show have been restored. They were completely cut in the 1993 repeat.
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Post by vahan on Jan 25, 2019 15:01:46 GMT -5
Did you all catch the bizarre edit in the second airing today? There was an abrupt crossfade; it didn't show Gene Wood depicter the puzzle. There was also an audio skip in Gene's introduction; the words "one of these eight" were missing. But there weren't any visual skips when the camera was showing the cars. Perhaps this edit was there all along in this episode and perhaps it wasn't Buzzr's doing.
UPDATE: Apparently, the solution was "Raising Caine".
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