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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 2, 2015 9:29:21 GMT -5
I could beg Time Warner all day long. Won't make any difference. Anyway, the whole idea that Fremantle launched Buzzr TV to generate YouTube videos was always, let's say, counter-intuitive. Looks like they're gonna come after YouTube posters hard. Still not gonna bother with a TV antenna hookup to get one subchannel. I am sure you could since its not THEIR decision!LOCAL AFFILIATE...as in BROADCAST STATIONS! Not Time Warner! Even if Time Warner owned one I am sure they don't them all in your area! Beg the others! Then if it were broadcast as a subchannel, your local cable company (which I assume is Time Warner in your case) would possibly carry it after it struck a deal with said broadcaster to do so. That is what Fremantle is hoping for. |
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Post by ScottEC on Jun 2, 2015 10:10:47 GMT -5
The WML Channel was an easy first target. On there is every single episode, or at least most of them. We'll have to see how this develops as to how much Fremantle's going after. It may be all of their properties, just full-length episodes, or only select channels with an excessive amount of full-length episodes. They may or may not go after clips and short segments. Who knows.
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Post by ScottEC on Jun 2, 2015 10:11:33 GMT -5
I could beg Time Warner all day long. Won't make any difference. Anyway, the whole idea that Fremantle launched Buzzr TV to generate YouTube videos was always, let's say, counter-intuitive. Looks like they're gonna come after YouTube posters hard. Still not gonna bother with a TV antenna hookup to get one subchannel. I am sure you could since its not THEIR decision!LOCAL AFFILIATE...as in BROADCAST STATIONS! Not Time Warner! Even if Time Warner owned one I am sure they don't them all in your area! Beg the others! Then if it were broadcast as a subchannel, your local cable company (which I assume is Time Warner in your case) would possibly carry it after it struck a deal with said broadcaster to do so. That is what Fremantle is hoping for. His market already carries Buzzr, as he mentioned on KDFI-TV. He doesn't need to worry about that. |
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Post by ScottEC on Jun 2, 2015 10:19:34 GMT -5
Sounds like the weeknight versions of the G-T panel shows will be black and white. Any confirmation on if the weekend versions will be syndicated runs? Also of note, the Match Game '78 episode!! Those mid-show fee plugs were never aired by GSN ever. I wonder if it'll be like that for the long haul or if this is just a special thing for tonight as filler. We'll see I guess!! You mean these fee plugs? |
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Jun 2, 2015 10:20:40 GMT -5
Granted, every episode on YT is a lot more compared to mostly clips and full episodes being more sporadic. But what happened to just letting the videos stay up with ads?
While there are perks to game shows being on places like YouTube, I still prefer watching a TV show on TV overall. Uploads are not gonna keep me from watching Buzzr.
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Post by Mandoli on Jun 2, 2015 10:25:26 GMT -5
Looks like they're gonna come after YouTube posters hard. So what about that whole idea that Fremantle was welcoming people who post their content with open arms (and ads)? They wanted their product to be seen, not hidden. |
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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 2, 2015 10:47:23 GMT -5
I am sure you could since its not THEIR decision!LOCAL AFFILIATE...as in BROADCAST STATIONS! Not Time Warner! Even if Time Warner owned one I am sure they don't them all in your area! Beg the others! Then if it were broadcast as a subchannel, your local cable company (which I assume is Time Warner in your case) would possibly carry it after it struck a deal with said broadcaster to do so. That is what Fremantle is hoping for. His market already carries Buzzr, as he mentioned on KDFI-TV. He doesn't need to worry about that. The point I was making is it's a move to get OTHERS to do it. |
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Post by gamecrazyh on Jun 2, 2015 11:02:48 GMT -5
Well, amidst of all of this, I thought I'd dropped the "Dismantle" nickname for good. Not the case.
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Post by Mandoli on Jun 2, 2015 11:06:12 GMT -5
Well, amidst of all of this, I thought I'd dropped the "Dismantle" nickname for good. Not the case. You don't know what's going to happen unless it does. Why don't we all just stop shaming the network and company until everyone knows what's going on here, okay? |
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Post by gamecrazyh on Jun 2, 2015 11:16:46 GMT -5
Sorry... Got a little hot-headed there.
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Jun 2, 2015 11:24:51 GMT -5
I'm side eying them for doing this after they explicitly said they weren't going to come for uploaders, BUT at the same time I'm not going to let this ruin my experience with Buzzr. At least Fremantle is trying to market their game shows instead of letting them rot in a vault PLUS on top of that, not letting anyone upload episodes or even 3 minute clips like another company.
I just want to know what's happening here. Is it just for people who upload every episode ever of a show? I have full episodes but not a large amount. Either way, they shouldn't have bothered making a statement like they did a while back regarding YT uploads if they were just going to do this.
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Post by Mandoli on Jun 2, 2015 11:29:04 GMT -5
I'm side eying them for doing this after they explicitly said they weren't going to come for uploaders... Therein lies the problem. Not you side-eying the company, but Fremantle saying flat-out that they weren't going to take down videos that the public puts out. A select few markets are going to be able to watch every available episode of shows, but if anyone not currently in one of those markets wanted to see the same, they're out of luck? Lovely idea. Let's just screw over everyone who isn't going to see your product. |
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Post by SpeedAndStrategy on Jun 2, 2015 12:25:17 GMT -5
My best guess is that the WML? channel was too problematic for them because of the sheer volume of episodes they uploaded. Perhaps it's easy for them to monetize an episode here and there, but claiming every single existing episode of the show would be more trouble than it's worth. In any case, I hope they at least don't start taking down episodes of shows that *aren't* airing on Buzzr.
Anyway, back to the topic of their programming... based on what I've read elsewhere, it looks like Family Feud at 6 AM was the Dawson syndie run, starting somewhere in 1980 (Hatley vs. Bugbee). Child's Play started somewhere in 1982, but not the premiere (Karen vs. Jeff). Body Language started with the Marcia Wallace/Fred Travalena week from January 1985 (and the ticket plug was included, complete with the early Classic Concentration theme mix). Blockbusters started from 1981 with Jeff/Alan vs. Bob. From what I know so far, Card Sharks (Perry) and Tattletales ('70s) were the only shows so far to actually start at the beginning, and the prime time airings of the latter match up with the next day's 7 AM airings. But I know a few others have aired since.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 14:33:16 GMT -5
Well, if Fremantle claims game show episodes because of Buzzr, I respect their wishes greatly. Either way, I'm going to download what I can, while I can. It's not going to be long before a lot of game show content will be gone from YouTube forever.
As for my future on YouTube, eventually my commenting will be limited to music videos. It will be like reliving 2006, when there were virtually no full episodes of game shows.
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Post by caseyabell on Jun 2, 2015 14:46:10 GMT -5
KDFI, the Fox O&O in my area, has two subchannels, Buzzr and a movie channel. Time Warner, my cable provider, carries the movie outlet but not Buzzr. Guess they figure that flicks draw more people than old game shows, and they may be right. TW does carry general entertainment subchannels from other local stations, like Antenna and Cozi. So who knows? Maybe one of these days...
As for the copyright issues, I can see why Fremantle's lawyers would hound the YouTube WML channel first. The channel has just about every surviving ep of the original CBS run of What's My Line, plus lots of other rarities. Okay, intellectual property rights and all that, but it still seems like a legalistic, terrible-p.r. move by Fremantle, almost designed to antagonize Buzzr's target audience of classics fans. If I were Ron Garfield - scary thought - I would call off the lawyer dogs. As a commenter on my blog said sarcastically:
Because only a few markets can get Buzzr (what an idiotic name) and fewer people are up at 2 in the morning to watch What's My Line?, so it makes perfect sense for Fremantle to be patrolling YouTube for copyright.
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