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Post by wildjackmonroe on Mar 31, 2017 9:05:34 GMT -5
From what I remember, those first two or three weeks of GSN's version were pretty decent. Especially the first week with Yvette Nicole Brown. It's pretty much as if they chose some of the best weeks to air first. Then after that, the game play got progressively harder to sit through. Something that the new version really seems to have improved on, because I have not had the same feelings of frustration of watching it that I did when I watched GSN's. No more Turturros please! lol.
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Post by S_SweepFan3 on Mar 31, 2017 10:38:33 GMT -5
Yeah, the week that had the Turturros was the worst. I'll never forget when Nick Turturro thought Albert Einstein flew the kite and discovered electricity. That was painful for everyone involved.
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Post by vahan on Mar 31, 2017 10:46:32 GMT -5
It was so bad, that two episodes (#1016 and #1019 were shelved by GSN. To make up for this, they taped an additional episode with Kate Flannery & Jim O'Heir, and an additional episode with Melissa Peterman & Samantha Harris.
And it seems they intended Pilot #3 to air from the get go, because it was listed as #1001, while #1002-#1005 was Dot Marie Jones & Oscar Nunez.
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Post by cardsharks1978 on Mar 31, 2017 20:54:55 GMT -5
They replaced an hour of Harvey Feud Monday through Thursday at 11:00 PM with, wait for it, Cash Cab. You're joking. GSN really stuck Cash Cab in the late evening spot? I almost want to throw my hands in the air and say "fuck it" with this network - more than I already have been doing. Honestly, GSN has been dead to me since they decided to cut Jim Perry's Card Sharks off their schedule out of the blue on November 18, 2016. Most atrocious move I have seen in sometime. We got two months into new lease and bam, gone. I personally don't care what they want to air cause as long as the Original Card Sharks is not on their schedule, they don't get any of my time. Whammy! could have easily been put on the schedule somewhere without removing Card Sharks. Still furious about it today. So yeah, I feel ya.
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Post by tpirrules1972 on Mar 31, 2017 22:52:52 GMT -5
Lol yeah the gameplay on GSN's Pyramid was cringe-worthy. Rounds of 3-4 points, which were (literally) laughably rare on the Clark versions, were commonplace...plus a good number of 2s or worse. You'd be pining for even just 5 in a round.
It's a shame because they had a nice idea with it and Richards was a competent host.
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Post by Mandoli on Mar 31, 2017 22:59:54 GMT -5
Honestly, GSN has been dead to me since they decided to cut Jim Perry's Card Sharks off their schedule out of the blue on November 18, 2016. Most atrocious move I have seen in sometime. We got two months into new lease and bam, gone. I personally don't care what they want to air cause as long as the Original Card Sharks is not on their schedule, they don't get any of my time. Whammy! could have easily been put on the schedule somewhere without removing Card Sharks. Still furious about it today. So yeah, I feel ya. It really is ridiculous. "We'll give you this hour, which was Harvey's spot on the schedule. But to compensate, we'll take out this hour and give it to him. Have a nice day." Don't care. GSN used to be variety. I 100% wish I had Buzzr.
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Post by cardsharks1978 on Apr 1, 2017 13:26:37 GMT -5
Honestly, GSN has been dead to me since they decided to cut Jim Perry's Card Sharks off their schedule out of the blue on November 18, 2016. Most atrocious move I have seen in sometime. We got two months into new lease and bam, gone. I personally don't care what they want to air cause as long as the Original Card Sharks is not on their schedule, they don't get any of my time. Whammy! could have easily been put on the schedule somewhere without removing Card Sharks. Still furious about it today. So yeah, I feel ya. It really is ridiculous. "We'll give you this hour, which was Harvey's spot on the schedule. But to compensate, we'll take out this hour and give it to him. Have a nice day." Don't care. GSN used to be variety. I 100% wish I had Buzzr. [br Buzzr has been amazing recently. This Prime Time Party they air every night between 8pm and 11pm is great. And I get my Original Card Sharks every night at 10pm. They were originally only airing April 24, 1978 to July 17, 1978 episodes but now we have new ones. Last night was August 15, 1978. They also air Password Plus, Let's Make A Deal (1985), Sale Of The Century, and Press Your Luck along with Card Sharks 1978. Nice to see NBC Game Shows getting some love beings GSN airs none. GSN was great not long ago but now they are just horrible. Hope you get Buzzr soon. I am hoping Buzzr gets to October 1978 on Card Sharks, those episodes are some of the very best.
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Post by caseyabell on Apr 3, 2017 8:21:43 GMT -5
You're joking. GSN really stuck Cash Cab in the late evening spot?
Uh no, I'm not joking. GSN gave Cash Cab another run at 11:00 PM in addition to its current run at 6:00 PM. Ben and friends now get nine hours a week. I asked Douglas Pucci for some numbers on the show, and it's been doing pretty well. So it's not a big surprise that the network gave the show four more hours.
By the way, Discovery is bringing Cash Cab back for new eps. Apparently without Ben Bailey, though, which has him somewhat upset.
Lol yeah the gameplay on GSN's Pyramid was cringe-worthy. Rounds of 3-4 points, which were (literally) laughably rare on the Clark versions, were commonplace...plus a good number of 2s or worse. You'd be pining for even just 5 in a round.
You're overstating the case, but this was a feature for me, not a bug. Perfect rounds got to be so routine on the old Clark versions. GSN toughened up the clues - partly to save pennies, of course, because perfect rounds increased the winners circle prize money - and that made perfection something of an event again, instead of a boring custom.
As I said before, I bet it's pretty common for viewership to be pretty solid during the first quarter of any year - given the abundance of blizzards and cold spells that shut down workplaces and schools, forcing people to stay home and watch GSN to pass the time away.
Nobody's "forced" to watch GSN instead of the zillion other cable channels. GSN ranked 37th and 33rd in the prime time and total day windows for the quarter among all cable nets. Certainly respectable by the network's historical standards. Don't hold your breath until Buzzr gets that kind of audience. Buzzr can't even get into most U.S. households.
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Post by S_SweepFan3 on Apr 3, 2017 10:03:01 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was the celebs that were more responsible for less perfect rounds, not the answers or clues. The celebs from the Dick Clark era would've had little problems getting perfect scores in Richards Pyramid.
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Apr 3, 2017 17:42:30 GMT -5
Exactly. I try not to be too overly critical of celebs most of the time because things can happen such as some giving clues better than they receive and vice versa e.g.: Martha Stewart was much better at receiving clues than giving them. Also some got better as they got used to playing on camera as the taping sessions went on. I've especially noticed this whenever I watched Donnymid reruns because Pax and GSN always aired the show in taping order rather than the largely miscellaneous order when the show originally aired. Most regular celebrities not in theme weeks stayed for 3 episodes. Some, like Mo'Nique for example, weren't so great during their first episode, but by their third one, they were winning the winner's circle.
But some of that playing on GSN's version was just tragic. Part of me wants to say that it had been a good eight years since the show last aired in first-run, and while GSN has been rerunning classic episodes, not everyone watches those. Then again, the game play on the newer version on ABC is nowhere near as frustrating for me to watch and the scores on a regular basis are not as low or pathetic either.
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Post by caseyabell on Apr 3, 2017 18:57:07 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was the celebs that were more responsible for less perfect rounds, not the answers or clues. The celebs from the Dick Clark era would've had little problems getting perfect scores in Richards Pyramid.Sorry, couldn't disagree more. The real explanation is basically a cable budget in the zillion-channel universe, as opposed to a network budget in the good (really bad) old NBC-CBS-ABC triopoly days. Much as I hate to agree with anything from Game Show Garbage, I do agree with their comment that GSN's Pyramid was "a top contender for the best revival of a classic game show in recent memory." GSN's version was too paint-by-numbers in my opinion, but they were painting by really good numbers. Game Show Garbage then went on to discuss the difficulty of the clues... I know this is a cable show. And, I know that while they say they can possibly give away $50,000 per show, they probably never will. That doesn't mean we necessarily have to have difficult categories requiring people's names 2 or 3 times a show does it? Back in the 1980s you might get a name category in a front game 2 or 3 times in a week. I don't dislike name categories. They add a certain challenge which I appreciate, but they can scale it back a little bit, in my opinion.Well, GSN had to protect the prize budget. By the way, a number of the celebs on GSN's Pyramid - Melissa Peterman, Yvette Nicole Brown, etc. - went on to Celebrity Name Game (a Pyramid knockoff, of course) and ABC's Pyramid. So they were certainly competent. They were just playing a tougher game than in the old Clark days, as Game Show Garbage correctly noted.
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Post by caseyabell on Apr 4, 2017 8:41:16 GMT -5
Starting April 8-9, Cash Cab is getting a lot of runs on the weekends (twelve, to be exact). The show must be performing well for GSN. Now we'll hear a lot of complaints about too much Ben, to go along with all the complaints about too much Steve. Cash Cab is up to fifteen hours a week on the new GSN schedule.
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Post by cardsharks1978 on Apr 4, 2017 9:12:46 GMT -5
Starting April 8-9, Cash Cab is getting a lot of runs on the weekends (twelve, to be exact). The show must be performing well for GSN. Now we'll hear a lot of complaints about too much Ben, to go along with all the complaints about too much Steve. Cash Cab is up to fifteen hours a week on the new GSN schedule. You'll get a complaint from me. 15 hours a week for one show yet original Card Sharks can't get one spot on schedule? Sheesh. Not asking much. Disheartening. I am glad I don't watch and haven't watched GSN since November 2016. Thank you for sharing your information with us. It's appreciated greatly. It also confirms my feelings for GSN.
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Post by caseyabell on Apr 6, 2017 9:49:57 GMT -5
More for you to complain about. Those darned modern shows instead of the dusty classics. From the blog...
Hollywood hijinks
As announced in GSN's sort of upfront, Hollywood Game Night begins its run on the network April 17.
GSN is certainly going big on the show. It gets the plum 9:00 PM prime time hour on weekdays and twelve hours per week in all. Cash Cab has already expanded to fifteen hours per week, so network execs must figure that their recent acquisitions are worth a lot of time.
Basically (or not so basically) GSN has to find another show to lessen the network's dependence on Steve Harvey's Family Feud. While Feud continues to get good numbers - if Douglas Pucci's occasional reports are any indication - the ratings have softened a little. Which you would expect after all those hours on the little game show network.
Cash Cab seems to be doing well, but I'm not so sure about Hollywood Game Night. It's a fun show but it wore out its welcome on NBC pretty quick. (Though the peacock net - Variety speak! - will burn off some remaining eps this summer.) The Hollywood gamers focused so obsessively on pop culture that I almost yearned for one of those obscure Jeopardy categories. We'll take nineteenth century European fiction for $400, Jane.
Still, the show should at least help freshen GSN's aged demos. In one other (rather odd) switch, GSN's reboot of Minute To Win It with Apolo Ohno will return to the schedule on April 10. Ohno was a tepid substitute for Guy Fieri, but his version wasn't a terrible remake.
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Post by phimat37 on Apr 6, 2017 16:41:28 GMT -5
I don't watch GSN much anymore, Idiotest is really the only show I watch, and I'll catch an occasional episode of Cash Cab. It's good to see GSN acquiring new shows so they don't have to rely solely on Family Feud for their ratings. Hopefully Hollywood Game Night does alright for GSN though. Even though Celebrity Name Game didn't get a good rap, and I only saw an episode or two, I liked it a little, and I would like to see GSN pick that up eventually. The show did have its following.
At least it'll give people a reason not to say on here, or to themselves "Seems like whenever I turn on GSN its Family Feud." GSN is trying to acquire shows so they don't have to rely on it as much, it appears.
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