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Post by aaaa on Aug 2, 2023 18:51:33 GMT -5
The next new to Buzzr episode of Classic Concentration when the next batch appears should be the 10/26/1990 26 second car win by Stan.
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Post by johnnyo on Aug 17, 2023 9:38:20 GMT -5
I am catching up on the last batch of fresh CC, and watching episode 858 (Original Air date September 27, 1990), an episode that includes future TOC contestant Stuart Wolf.
During his first turn in Game 1, he started off making two matches, both via Wild Cards. After the second match, his puzzle guess was "Shab-a-reeny Dooster". Stuart explained to a perplexed Alex that the guess was the same nonsensical guess his friend Marc Ellman had made during his earlier appearance on the show (the guess itself is a reference to Ellman's nephew).
Ellmaan appeared on episodes 577 & 578 (original air dates August 21 & 22, 1989), winning two games, losing two games, and earning $9,131 in prizes. Ellman's nonsensical guess came in Game 2 of episode 578, after he made his first match on his third turn. That game was Ellman's final appearance.
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Post by aaaa on Oct 9, 2023 7:41:37 GMT -5
Stan's record breaking bonus round kicks off the "new to Buzzr" episodes of Classic Concentration at 8:30AM EST this morning.
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Post by johnnyo on Oct 18, 2023 10:35:23 GMT -5
One interesting element of the "Two Strikes 2.0" era of Classic Concentration is that returning contestants always stayed in the same seat (on either side of Alex), whether they were returning because they had lost their first game, or because they had won a game but failed to win a car. The returning champion could appear on either side of Alex, depending on which side of Alex they had sat when they won.
This was change from the previous formats, where the returning champion always appeared on the left side of the screen (on Alex's right).
In this context, it is noteworthy that when Christopher Williams ended episode 887 (air date, Wednesday November 7, 1990) as champion while sitting on the right side of the screen (on Alex's left), he returned on episode 893 (air date, Thursday November 8, 1990) sitting on the left side of the screen (on Alex's right) (in what had previously been the traditional champion's chair).
So while it would appear to viewers across November 7 & 8 that, for some unknown reason, the champion had switched seats, the production reality is that an entire week of TOC #2 episodes had been produced in between Christopher Williams's appearances on Nov. 7 and Nov. 8, and that by the time episode 893 was taped, he was probably just placed on Alex's right out of habit/tradition.
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Post by johnnyo on Oct 19, 2023 11:03:29 GMT -5
Now that BUZZR has gone significantly into airing Classic Concentration episodes with the final major game updates, I'd like to comment on some of the assumptions about these updates. (Disclaimer that data does not include BUZZR Skips not on YT.)
- "One Wild Card in Game 2"; Began with episode 702, but was never a permanent change. Within episodes 702 to 899, there have been as many as seven consecutive episodes with only 1 WC in Game 2, and as many as ten consecutive episodes with the traditional three WC's in Game 2.
-"Cashpot always in Game 2"; Seems to have only taken effect in episode 814. When then cashpot begin in episode 637, it was in Game 1 until at least episode 671. It first moved to Game 2 in episode 672 or 673, and stayed there until 687. Episodes 688 to 813 could be considered the "Cashpot Moves Around" era. The cashpot was in Game 1 in both 688 and 813, and moved between Games 1 and 2 during this stretch (even being announced in both games four times). 813 appears to be the last episode with the cashpot in Game 1.
- "Five Bonus Car Seconds (FBCS) always in Game 2"; Like the Cashpot, the FBCS did not move when first introduced. It was always in Game 2 from episodes 848 to 869. Beginning with episode 870, it has moved between Games 1 and 2, except during the TOC2, (episodes 888-892) when it was not offered at all.
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Post by vahan on Nov 3, 2023 21:16:44 GMT -5
Maytee (November 20, 1990) was on Press Your Luck in 1984.
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Post by aaaa on Nov 6, 2023 8:33:45 GMT -5
CLassic Concentration is, as expected, not new to Buzzr today. This morning at 8:30AM EST they are back to 3/15/1990
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Post by johnnyo on Nov 18, 2023 23:10:32 GMT -5
When John Radke was brought back to Classic Concentration in episode 918, he indicated that he had given a correct answer on his previous appearance that had been ruled to be after buzzer. He failed to make a subsequent match, and lost the game (Game #2 in episode 843, from Thursday 9/6/1990).
As he explained it, he looked at the tape when it aired, and "it looked like I did say it right before the buzzer." It seemed an odd explanation, like he had initiated the review by contacting the producers after his show aired. In any case, he was given the benefit of the doubt and invited back.
But when I went back and watched it again, it was close but he definitely began his answer after the buzzer began to sound. If I had been responsible for the final decision, I would not have invited him back. I suppose there is more precision with digital technology in 2023, and if I had reviewed the tape in 1990, maybe I would have made a different decision.
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Post by johnnyo on Nov 19, 2023 9:46:24 GMT -5
When John Radke was brought back to Classic Concentration in episode 918, he indicated that he had given a correct answer on his previous appearance that had been ruled to be after buzzer. He failed to make a subsequent match, and lost the game (Game #2 in episode 843, from Thursday 9/6/1990). As he explained it, he looked at the tape when it aired, and "it looked like I did say it right before the buzzer." It seemed an odd explanation, like he had initiated the review by contacting the producers after his show aired. In any case, he was given the benefit of the doubt and invited back. But when I went back and watched it again, it was close but he definitely began his answer after the buzzer began to sound. If I had been responsible for the final decision, I would not have invited him back. I suppose there is more precision with digital technology in 2023, and if I had reviewed the tape in 1990, maybe I would have made a different decision. So I just completed watching episode 918, in which John Radke returned in Game 2. The solution to the puzzle was "A Pleasant Surprise". In the puzzle, the word surprise was not directly represented. Instead, it was suggested by a bowl of soup, the letters "Pr" and ice: Soup+Pr+Ice ="Surprise". Late in the game, John tried to solve the puzzle by saying "A Pleasant Soup-prise". Alex repeated this solution verbatim, and it was rejected. The game was interrupted at that point, and his opponent eventually solved the puzzle correctly after the entire puzzle was revealed, when Alex offered the hint, "Remember, you must solve it (the puzzle) exactly". As the crowd applauded and the music played, John sat there with arms extended as if to say "WTH, I solved it!". Alex explained that he said "Soup" and not "Sur". John remained silent and unsmiling after that, either accepting his mistake, or quietly stewing that Classic Concentration had done him dirty again. He did not offer the typical "Good Luck" to his opponent as he was moved offstage. To be fair to John, when puzzles are explained (either by GW in the opening, or by the contestants), commonly the solution is stated twice. Once by the stating the actual symbols, and then by translating that to the actual solution. John's rejected solution was a hybrid of this, as he had correctly combined the symbols for "A pleasant" (Ape+LESS+Cent), but did not translate "Soup" in to "Sur". IMHO, John would be more deserving of a break (by removing his strike for this loss) then he was for what happened on episode 843. (As of this typing, I have not moved on to episode 919, so I do not know if this was addressed.)
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Post by johnnyo on Nov 19, 2023 15:35:41 GMT -5
This is my last post on John Radke. He probably left from his second appearance feeling worse than he did from his first appearance. Episode 919 began with Alex commenting on the prior day's events by saying that you "can't confuse the symbol(s) with the solution of the puzzle".
John ended up receiving his second strike in the first game of ep. 919, and the circumstances could not have been worse. The solution was "Old Cape Cod", with "Old" being suggested by the Hole of a Sock and the letter d; Hole+d= "Old". In the beginning, it looked like John would not even a chance when his opponent found all three wild cards within his first five selections. John bounced back strong as he found both takes (using each immediately), and had six prizes in his column when he cleared the board.
But then he guessed "Hold Cape Cod", once again giving a literal reading of one of the symbols instead of the solution. He lost the game when his opponent solved the puzzle.
So John Radke was invited back due to a perceived slight (a chance he probably didn't deserve), and managed to lose two games by making the same rare mistake twice. I don't think he ever smiled on episode 919, and was taken off the stage with zero comment. I honestly felt bad for him.
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 23, 2024 17:08:59 GMT -5
Tracking the pattern of Classic Concentration opening rebuses has revealed some information on a couple of episodes that BUZZR has skipped.
- The opening rebus for BUZZR skipped episode # 742 (Air date Thursday, April 12, 1990) is almost certainly the same as the opening rebus used on episode # 928.
- The opening rebus that was used for episode #'s 744 & 930 was almost certainly used during game play on BUZZR skipped episode # 463 (Air date Thursday, March 3, 1989, which was show # 3 in CC's first "College Week").
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Post by vahan on Jan 23, 2024 18:20:51 GMT -5
johnnyo you should do a rebuses list one of these days.
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Post by vahan on Jan 29, 2024 20:44:02 GMT -5
I think it's becoming more and more clear that the Bill Vs. Wanda episode wasn't 2/1/91.
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 30, 2024 12:43:03 GMT -5
I think it's becoming more and more clear that the Bill Vs. Wanda episode wasn't 2/1/91. I actually have "Bill vs. Wanda" in my notes as episode 945, original air date of Tuesday, 2/5/91. The cars in "Bill vs. Wanda" don't even line up with 2/1/91 (ep. 943); a new set of cars that matches "Bill vs. Wanda" was introduced on 944 (Monday, 2/4/91).
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Post by johnnyo on Jan 30, 2024 13:58:42 GMT -5
johnnyo you should do a rebuses list one of these days. I would love to share a full list, but it is too much data to post here. There is a minimum of 3 rebuses per episode (except TOC#2), so that is hundreds and hundreds of rebuses.
Here is an excerpt of my data on the opening rebuses, covering episodes 927-932. Most of the information is straightforward; the last item on each line is a note on when the rebus had been used previously (or was used in a future episode). So "Ep 460, Game 1 / 741" means the rebus that opened episode 927 was also used in the first game of episode 460, and in the opening of episode 741. (742 is marked in bold red b/c that episode was skipped by BUZZR, and I included it without direct evidence.)
927 1/8/1991 Tuesday Dawn Key-Hoe-Tee Ep 460, Game 1 / 741 928 1/9/1991 Wednesday Awl "a"-Boar-"D" TB, 460 / 742 929 1/10/1991 Thursday Back-"g"-Ham-On Ep 462, Game 2 / 743 930 1/11/1991 Friday "Duh"-Bull Dew-Tea 744 931 1/14/1991 Monday "THE" Bee-Tills Ep 465, Game 1 / 745 932 1/15/1991 Tuesday "raz"-Hill Das-Hill TB, 465 / 746
Regarding my notation, when a rebus had a plus (+) sign, I used a dash (-) instead; whenever a letter (or letters) appeared in a rebus, I always put in quotes, even if quotes did not appear in the actual rebus.
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