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Post by vahan on Jul 20, 2018 10:34:37 GMT -5
carpetcrawler Frank gameshowdude Come and take a look at this. All of this came from researching in newspapers.com. This version had 39 episodes, and I found all the Celebs who had secrets to tell in each of them. Here's the list: Alan Alda Marty Allen Kaye Ballard Bob Barker Milton Berle George Burns Red Buttons Ruth Buzzi Jack Carter John Davidson Dom DeLuise Cass Elliot Chad Everett Frank Gorshin Joel Grey Buddy Hackett Monty Hall George Kirby Jack Klugman Don Knotts Michael Landon Rich Little Allen Ludden Paul Lynde Bill Macy Martin Milner Greg Morris Jan Murray Jo Ann Pflug Vincent Price Robert Reed Charles Nelson Reilly Joan Rivers Cliff Robertson Rod Serling Jerry Stiller & Anne Meara Alan Sues Paul Winchell Jo Anne Worley Looking at this list, it appears GSN never played the Ruth Buzzi, George Kirby, Jan Murray, Jo Ann Pflug, and Jo Anne Worley episodes.
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jul 20, 2018 19:04:24 GMT -5
YOOOOOOOOO this is the good shiz, thank you so much for collecting this!! This is a HUGE help. Looking at this list, it appears GSN never played the Ruth Buzzi, George Kirby, Jan Murray, Jo Ann Pflug, and Jo Anne Worley episodes. Can at least confirm George Kirby and Jo Anne Worley episodes have aired on GSN in the past--because I have them.  The Worley episode features twin NBA basketball players Tom and Dick Van Arsdale in a separate secret. Which means we're not sure about Buzzi, Murray, and Pflug. But honestly I see no reason to not assume that GSN has aired those episodes as well in the past. |
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Post by Frank on Jul 20, 2018 21:00:41 GMT -5
Yep I have 23 of those 39 episodes. I'd like to have 16 more.
Paul Lynde is the Premire
and John Davidson is the Finale
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Post by WarioSajak on Jul 21, 2018 14:30:02 GMT -5
Lemme see what notes I have here...
* Joan Rivers was #02.
[On #03, the "word bubble" graphical display began to be used for secrets. The first two shows carried over the fullscreen method from the previous run.]
* Alan Alda was #03.
** One of three episodes I'm aware of where the logo's apostrophe is blue with a yellow outline.
* Monty Hall was #04 (has the blue/yellow apostrophe).
* Buddy Hackett falls into this period, as the blue/yellow apostrophe is present.
* Milton Berle was #07, by which point the logo apostrophe went back to solid yellow.
* Greg Morris and Dom DeLuise also fall into this period.
* Bob Barker was #12 (a clip of the first player's secret appeared in a Buzzr promo).
[Nameplates added for panelists on #13 or #14.]
* Charles Nelson Reilly was #14.
* Rod Serling was #16.
[At some point after #16, Steve no longer used "the new" in his opening greeting.]
* Cass Elliot, Cliff Robertson, Jack Klugman, and George Burns were all taped in 1972, following the above change.
* Allen Ludden was #25 (not sure on the copyright date).
* Vincent Price was #26, by which point the copyright date had changed to 1973.
* Don Knotts, Michael Landon, and Anne Meara all have 1973 copyright dates.
GSN also aired #38 back in December 2014, but I don't know who the guest was there.
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Post by vahan on Jul 21, 2018 17:05:50 GMT -5
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Post by ivoryface86 on Jul 21, 2018 17:12:45 GMT -5
For #38 Daniel, the guests were Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara but Anne Meara was on the set but Jerry Stiller was heard while flying a plane. At what point did Johnny Olson went from detailing all the gifts at once at the end of the episode to showing the gifts before each subsequent segment? I ask that because in the Paul Lynde and Joan Rivers episodes, the gifts were shown after each segment ended.
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jul 21, 2018 18:57:21 GMT -5
This rules. Thank you so much everyone. This thread and episode guide are everything I've ever wanted!! I have the Marty Allen episode from the studio master so I can check the slate and see what number episode it is. EDIT: It's #19!!  |
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Post by vahan on Jul 21, 2018 20:27:28 GMT -5
And the Panel? Who was the Panel in that Marty Allen episode?
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Post by WarioSajak on Jul 21, 2018 21:27:58 GMT -5
I'll add the question of whether Steve still welcomed viewers to "the new I've Got A Secret". For those who have the Greg Morris episode, does his segment come before or after the one with Joe Winicky (the guy with the rooster)? While this version seems to have always done two standard games before the celeb's turn, the footage available online is missing a bunch of non-gameplay/secret bits (including the end of Winicky's segment) and as such I want to make 100% sure. For #38 Daniel, the guests were Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara but Anne Meara was on the set but Jerry Stiller was heard while flying a plane. Thanks.  That one's online, albeit from an earlier airing. At what point did Johnny Olson went from detailing all the gifts at once at the end of the episode to showing the gifts before each subsequent segment? I ask that because in the Paul Lynde and Joan Rivers episodes, the gifts were shown after each segment ended. Seems to have been on #003 - while it doesn't use either method, there's still a sponsor list. It also has an out-of-place shot of the audience after Steve signs off, which is presumably where the plugs were meant to be (though I couldn't discern any jump in the music). My best guess is that it's a pre-finalized master copy. |
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jul 21, 2018 22:50:50 GMT -5
It would have made sense to check for all of these things. Whoops, my bad. I'll get out the DVD again and take a look in a little bit.
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jul 22, 2018 8:55:24 GMT -5
MARTY ALLEN: Betty White, Henry Morgan, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Steve does not refer to it as "new". GEORGE KIRBY: Pat Carroll, Bert Convy, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Yellow apostrophe. Steve does not refer to it as "new". 1972 episode according to the copyright. MARTIN MILNER: Betty White, Henry Morgan, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Yellow apostrophe. Steve does not refer to it as "new". Having a hard time telling what year it is.ROBERT REED: Jayne Meadows, Henry Morgan, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Yellow apostrophe. Steve does not refer to it as "new". Copyright says MCMLXXIII, so 1973. JO ANNE WORLEY: Anita Gillette, Gene Rayburn, Stephanie Edwards, Richard Dawson. Blue apostrophe with the yellow border. Steve does refer to it as "new". Johnny O. does the prize plugs during the end/credits. Having a hard time telling what year this is. However it's gotta be 1972 and either episode 5 or 6 if we're going by the other clues we've got so far. My gut: it has to be from the same taping as the Buddy Hackett episode, which would work since Jo Anne Worley was on the panel for Buddy's episode. |
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Post by The Game Show Channel on Jul 22, 2018 9:42:13 GMT -5
MARTY ALLEN: Betty White, Henry Morgan, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Steve does not refer to it as "new". GEORGE KIRBY: Pat Carroll, Bert Convy, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Yellow apostrophe. Steve does not refer to it as "new". 1972 episode according to the copyright. MARTIN MILNER: Betty White, Henry Morgan, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Yellow apostrophe. Steve does not refer to it as "new". Having a hard time telling what year it is.ROBERT REED: Jayne Meadows, Henry Morgan, Anita Gillette, Richard Dawson. Yellow apostrophe. Steve does not refer to it as "new". Copyright says MCMLXXIII, so 1973. JO ANNE WORLEY: Anita Gillette, Gene Rayburn, Stephanie Edwards, Richard Dawson. Blue apostrophe with the yellow border. Steve does refer to it as "new". Johnny O. does the prize plugs during the end/credits. Having a hard time telling what year this is. However it's gotta be 1972 and either episode 5 or 6 if we're going by the other clues we've got so far. My gut: it has to be from the same taping as the Buddy Hackett episode, which would work since Jo Anne Worley was on the panel for Buddy's episode. Martin Milner is 1972. |
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Post by WarioSajak on Jul 22, 2018 10:36:26 GMT -5
MARTY ALLEN: [...] Steve does not refer to it as "new". And hence narrowing that change to within a three-episode span. JO ANNE WORLEY: [...] either episode 5 or 6 if we're going by the other clues we've got so far. My gut: it has to be from the same taping as the Buddy Hackett episode, which would work since Jo Anne Worley was on the panel for Buddy's episode. Given the previous pattern of having the same panelists for two episodes in a row (thus suggesting two episodes per taping day), I suspect you're right. Worley's episode was probably taped first. |
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jul 22, 2018 10:59:11 GMT -5
Sounds like it's safe to assume the Martin Milner episode is #20 as well.
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Post by carpetcrawler on Jul 28, 2018 5:00:21 GMT -5
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The Worley episode features twin NBA basketball players Tom and Dick Van Arsdale in a separate secret.
