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Post by intothegrinder on Dec 7, 2021 14:53:01 GMT -5
Hi, longtime reader of the board, first time poster! I've recently been binge watching Tattletales on youtube, and was looking at the Mark Goodson Fandom episode guide and was wondering why there are an inordinate number of repeats listed during the 1976 season? Is there any confirmation that they aired repeats those weeks? Beacuse i've seen 4 episodes on youtube from 1976 that aren't listed on the guide, and they seemingly have to be from some weeks that are currently listed as repeats.... 1. Gene/Helen Rayburn, Juliet Prowse/John McCook, Leslie Nielsen/Candy Rhoades (perhaps taped in April 1976?) www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGqeGX8T5E2. Bill/Ann Cullen, Bob/Dorothy Jo Barker, Patty Weaver/Larry Stewart (perhaps taped in August 1976?) www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHm8NAjYIrQ3. Dick/Dolly Martin, Bill Bixby/Brenda Benet, Juliet Mills/Michael Miklenda www.youtube.com/watch?v=332WqjPJW5o4. Buzz Aldrin/Beverly Van Stile, Dan Rowan/Joanna Young, Mark Shera/Barbara Deutsch www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7uj_sLP-CgDoes anyone have any info on what dates these are from, or how to find out? Thanks! |
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Post by vahan on Dec 7, 2021 15:24:45 GMT -5
Ian Wallis has a guide to accurate airdates for 1974. Unfortunately, he stopped after that. gamesandclassictv.neocities.org/tattletales.htmlI've been trying to fix so much of the episode guide. Right now, I'm fixing 1975. So far, I've fixed weeks #001-#076. I'll get to 1976 eventually. For the record, I am not responsible for that claim that 1976 had so many repeat weeks. The only reason why I haven't fixed the airdate information for 1976-1978 is because I don't know. Simple as that. I also think that some of the postponements that may have applied to Match Game '7X, may not have applied to Tattletales (i.e. May 28, 1975). markgoodson.fandom.com/wiki/Tattletales/Episode_GuideIt sure would be nice to have accurate airdate information for 1975 and on. |
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Post by ivoryface86 on Dec 7, 2021 16:22:10 GMT -5
Ian Wallis has a guide to accurate airdates for 1974. Unfortunately, he stopped after that. gamesandclassictv.neocities.org/tattletales.htmlI've been trying to fix so much of the episode guide. Right now, I'm fixing 1975. So far, I've fixed weeks #001-#076. I'll get to 1976 eventually. For the record, I am not responsible for that claim that 1976 had so many repeat weeks. The only reason why I haven't fixed the airdate information for 1976-1978 is because I don't know. Simple as that. I also think that some of the postponements that may have applied to Match Game '7X, may not have applied to Tattletales (i.e. May 28, 1975). markgoodson.fandom.com/wiki/Tattletales/Episode_GuideIt sure would be nice to have accurate airdate information for 1975 and on. As well as any week beyond May 1983 that should get corrected including rerun weeks. There are no rerun weeks in any of the 1976-78 time period. But we do know that the Bill Cullen/Bob Barker/Patty Weaver week was #636-#640, potentially aired on August 16-20, 1976 and the second emcee week with Jack Narz hosting 1 episode were #701-#705 aired on November 15-19, 1976. I wish Thomas Schofield and Imad Khuri can sign up to this forum. Other episode guides that are not covered entirely are the daytime counterpart of the original To Tell The Truth(the 1965-68 portion), the 1974-78 portion of the Color To Tell The Truth and the earlier 1968-72 portion of Color What's My Line(from Bruner's tenure) as well as the Color I've Got A Secret(I know, GSN may've aired the entire run of it in taping order one time) as well as Color Beat The Clock, but there was a weekly celebrity guest guide Canadian site, but the site doesn't list the taping order of the weekly guests. |
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Post by intothegrinder on Dec 7, 2021 16:46:49 GMT -5
Ian Wallis has a guide to accurate airdates for 1974. Unfortunately, he stopped after that. gamesandclassictv.neocities.org/tattletales.htmlI've been trying to fix so much of the episode guide. Right now, I'm fixing 1975. So far, I've fixed weeks #001-#076. I'll get to 1976 eventually. For the record, I am not responsible for that claim that 1976 had so many repeat weeks. The only reason why I haven't fixed the airdate information for 1976-1978 is because I don't know. Simple as that. I also think that some of the postponements that may have applied to Match Game '7X, may not have applied to Tattletales (i.e. May 28, 1975). markgoodson.fandom.com/wiki/Tattletales/Episode_GuideIt sure would be nice to have accurate airdate information for 1975 and on. Thanks vahan, I did find this other old Tattletale episode guide, but it's incomplete and hasn't been updated since 2005-ish... web.archive.org/web/20050305220634/http://www.matchgame.org/episodeguides/tattletales/Also i found these TV listings, which include all the episodes (including the 76-77) shows, but i don't know the accuracy reputation of the site... sharetv.com/shows/tattletales/season_3I hope we can all work together to put a thorough Tattletale episode guide together, it's always been puzzling to me over the years that the Tattletale guides were always so incomplete. |
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Post by pyramidfan on Dec 7, 2021 17:00:43 GMT -5
I've seen the air records for the first few years of the series, and there's a very good reason why it's hard to compose an accurate episode guide: The network often mixed and matched episodes from different weeks, featuring different panels. Trust me -- If you're going by listings in TV Guides or newspapers, though they should have been trustworthy, they weren't. (Through no fault of the publishers, I might add.)
To make things less frustrating for yourselves, if you're composing an episode guide, I'd go by episode numbers instead. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay less complicated, and they usually aired reasonably close to the tape dates.
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Post by vahan on Dec 7, 2021 17:28:53 GMT -5
To make things less frustrating for yourselves, if you're composing an episode guide, I'd go by episode numbers instead. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay less complicated, and they usually aired reasonably close to the tape dates. For just about all game show episode guides I've done, they've been arranged in episode number order as opposed to airing order. |
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Post by vahan on Jan 22, 2022 15:40:44 GMT -5
intothegrinder the only preemption from the final four months of the original Tattletales I'm not 100% sure about is the Carter press conference on December 30, 1977. TPIR was scheduled for 10-11 a.m. on that day. However, Family Feud did indeed air on that day over at ABC, so that's why I'm not 100% sure. The end of the original Tattletales was officially announced by NY Daily News and Variety on March 2, 1978. The final tapings were in February.
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Post by vahan on Feb 7, 2022 23:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by vahan on Feb 8, 2022 12:21:13 GMT -5
Ian also said to me that getting accurate listings right until the end will be difficult. By 1978 a lot of cities weren't carrying it anymore, and it's not even listed in some of the TV Guides he has from that era. He also said that he thinks only two episodes of the final taped week actually aired. They must have known about the cancellation by that time, so maybe that's all they taped, since the show would often begin airing a new tape date mid-week.
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Post by intothegrinder on Feb 8, 2022 23:41:03 GMT -5
Ian also said that he thinks only two episodes of the final taped week actually aired. They must have known about the cancellation by that time, so maybe that's all they taped, since the show would often begin airing a new tape date mid-week. Interesting. I've seen listings for the last couple days of March 1978 that listed Steve Allen and Jayne Meadows as guests, but not enough days for a full week, so i figured they were possibly airing repeats of an earlier week. But maybe they did just tape a couple shows to fill out the remaining air dates? Anyway, great to see Ian working on this! |
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Post by vahan on Feb 9, 2022 15:34:20 GMT -5
intothegrinder I'm confused. I was expecting to see Lynn Redgrave and Hal Linden, but for whatever reason, I'm not. Buzzr is listing this current week with Gene Rayburn and his wife as #0396-#0400. I have no idea if they did or didn't make a typo. It can be pretty confusing. After all, this show didn't have returning champions.
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Post by timg on Mar 9, 2022 19:50:25 GMT -5
intothegrinder the only preemption from the final four months of the original Tattletales I'm not 100% sure about is the Carter press conference on December 30, 1977. TPIR was scheduled for 10-11 a.m. on that day. However, Family Feud did indeed air on that day over at ABC, so that's why I'm not 100% sure. The end of the original Tattletales was officially announced by NY Daily News and Variety on March 2, 1978. The final tapings were in February. So one could be correct in saying there was a legitimately announced finale (With Thank-you's) unlike the unannounced finale that the 1982-84 run had? If that question makes sense, thank-you. |
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Post by timg on Mar 9, 2022 19:52:31 GMT -5
Ian also said to me that getting accurate listings right until the end will be difficult. By 1978 a lot of cities weren't carrying it anymore, and it's not even listed in some of the TV Guides he has from that era. He also said that he thinks only two episodes of the final taped week actually aired. They must have known about the cancellation by that time, so maybe that's all they taped, since the show would often begin airing a new tape date mid-week. Sounds like Match Game '79s final weeks. Some eps aired on CBS, some didn't. |
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Post by vahan on Mar 9, 2022 20:14:31 GMT -5
Actually, it seems they at least somewhat implied in the 1984 finale that it was the end. Bert said "This may be the last time you'll see me".
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Post by vahan on May 30, 2022 20:08:46 GMT -5
Because I have no idea of the actual episode numbers with Lynn Redgrave & Godfrey Cambridge, they are marked with ?'s (question marks). That Wink Martindale week, I was able to confirm, because I saw a slate for one of the episodes on YouTube.
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