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Post by pyramidfan on Jul 12, 2023 7:43:34 GMT -5
Hi there. I noticed this thread as I was searching for an episode of WLOD that i was on in the late 1980s. I moved to LA in 1988 and I was on an episode of the show with Ned Beatty and Elayne Boosler and hosted by Vicki Lawrence. It may have aired in 1988 or 1989, I'm not sure when. I have tried for a long time to find the episode after I lost my VHS tape copy. But upon looking at all of the listings below, I do not see those two celebrities listed in the same week. Is there a chance they just never reaired the episode or didn't submit it for syndication? Not sure how all of that works, but I find it interesting that my episode has sort of vanished from existence or mention anywhere. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Brian--- According to newspapers, your episode aired somewhere between August 18th and 25th in 1989. It was the penultimate week of the daytime series.
To the best of my knowledge, the NBC episodes haven't been rerun since their original airings. However, the tapes should still exist.
Good luck in your quest to find a copy!
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Post by aaaa on Jul 12, 2023 8:42:54 GMT -5
Hi there. I noticed this thread as I was searching for an episode of WLOD that i was on in the late 1980s. I moved to LA in 1988 and I was on an episode of the show with Ned Beatty and Elayne Boosler and hosted by Vicki Lawrence. It may have aired in 1988 or 1989, I'm not sure when. I have tried for a long time to find the episode after I lost my VHS tape copy. But upon looking at all of the listings below, I do not see those two celebrities listed in the same week. Is there a chance they just never reaired the episode or didn't submit it for syndication? Not sure how all of that works, but I find it interesting that my episode has sort of vanished from existence or mention anywhere. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Brian--- According to newspapers, your episode aired somewhere between August 18th and 25th in 1989. It was the penultimate week of the daytime series.
To the best of my knowledge, the NBC episodes haven't been rerun since their original airings. However, the tapes should still exist.
Good luck in your quest to find a copy!
The daytime WLOD hasn't aired anywhere since its original run. Maybe Disney would be willing to put 35 year old game show episodes up on a streaming service |
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Post by Frank on Jul 12, 2023 14:06:40 GMT -5
According to newspapers, your episode aired somewhere between August 18th and 25th in 1989. It was the penultimate week of the daytime series.
To the best of my knowledge, the NBC episodes haven't been rerun since their original airings. However, the tapes should still exist.
Good luck in your quest to find a copy!
The daytime WLOD hasn't aired anywhere since its original run. Maybe Disney would be willing to put 35 year old game show episodes up on a streaming service or like Fremantle, offer it up for sale for a cool $200 |
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Post by pyramidfan on Sept 1, 2023 17:03:42 GMT -5
I think I discovered something regarding the daytime version of "Win." According to newspapers, for the week of January 30, 1989, the show had four different celebrities each day. Two of the panels were featured in earlier weeks that had a preemption, with another panel most likely being in the same boat. My theory is that at least three of the broadcasts from that week were episodes that had originally been preempted. I can go into more detail, if anyone wants, as it can get kinda confusing.
Because of this, I'm now thinking that the three daytime broadcasts from Thanksgiving week in 1988 were also previously preempted episodes. The difference here is that they were from weeks with planned preemptions. Let me elaborate.
The only celebrity listing I can find in newspapers from that week is Rita Rudner, Leeza Gibbons, Michael T. Weiss, and Pat Morita. Those guests also played the week of June 27, 1988 (as mentioned in the online episode guide), with one of the shows being preempted for Wimbledon coverage. There was special programming on Thursday and Friday of Thanksgiving week, so there were only two other episodes aired that week, on Monday and Tuesday.
My guess is that even if a planned premption was scheduled, the show still taped five episodes and saved one for later. If that was the case, perhaps one of the Thanksgiving episodes featured Marion Ross, Lynne Moody, McLean Stevenson, and Marc Summers, seeing as there was a Wimbledon preemption that week, too.
If any of this doesn't make sense, feel free to ask questions. I'm still trying to sort it all out myself!
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Post by vahan on Sept 1, 2023 17:33:49 GMT -5
Please go into more detail. I want to know.
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Post by pyramidfan on Sept 3, 2023 21:37:45 GMT -5
Please go into more detail. I want to know. Here are the listings I found in newspapers for the week of January 30, 1989.
Jan. 30-Edie McClurg, Samantha Fox, Meshach Taylor, Ken Berry
Jan. 31-Leann Hunley, Betty White, Charles Nelson Reilly, Charles Durning
Feb. 1-Valerie Landsburg, Charlotte Ross, Byron Allen, Bill Kirchenbauer
Feb. 2-Marsha Warfield, Deborah Harmon, Anson Williams, Adrian Zmed
Feb. 3-JoAnn Willette, Mrs. Fields, Rob Stone, Steve Kanaly
The Warfield and Willette weeks each had one-day preemptions. The McClurg week most likely had one on December 8, 1988, as "Super Password" was preempted that day. I don't know of any preemptions during the Landsburg week or the Hunley week.
A related theory of mine is that if there was an unplanned preemption, NBC aired the rest of the week's episodes in the intended order and put the preempted show on the back burner for later, along with the shows from planned preemptions. Because there was no straddling of contestants at that time, there was no need to bump a day's episode until the next day, like they needed to do for "Super Password."
However, in the summer of 1989, when "Win" started having two returning contestants on the same team every day, the series had to stay in order when it had a preemption. This situation happened pretty quickly. One newspaper lists Marcy Walker and Steve Kanaly as celebrities for the week of June 12-16. However, that same newspaper also lists them for Monday, June 19th.
According to the online guide, there was a preemption for the French Open on June 9th. However, you'd think the show would have prepared for that and only taped four shows with Edie McClurg and Jory Husein, who were the listed celebrities for the previous week -- the first with the two-contestants-per-team format. Perhaps there was an unplanned preemption the week of the 12th.
Two new celebrities, Anne-Marie Johnson and JM J. Bullock, started on June 20th and continued until Monday, June 26th. Marsha Warfield and Pat Harrington were the new guests starting June 27th. There were preemptions on July 3rd and 4th, and Marsha and Pat resumed on July 5th.
The guests on July 6th are a bit of a mystery. A new five-day session should have started then, but I can't find any newspaper listings for that date. The following week, they temporarily reverted back to the one-contestant-per-team format. This may have been because Betty White and Rue McClanahan were on that week, promoting "The Golden Girls" reruns starting on NBC's daytime schedule. According to TV Guide, their opponents were Richard Moll and Clifton Davis. My guess is that either they started the four-celebrity week on July 6th and continued it until the 13th or they aired the "Monday" episode of the next two-celebrity week -- featuring Betty White and Meshach Taylor -- on the 6th and suspended the other four episodes until the week of the 17th, choosing instead to air the four-celeb week from the 10th to the 14th.
The next celebrity listing in newspapers is Betty and Meshach on July 17th, continuing until the 20th. (Again, the first episode of that week aired on either July 6th or 13th.) The series continued on a Friday/Monday-Thursday schedule from July 21st until August 17th. Celebrity opponents for those weeks , in order, were Charnele Brown & Frank Runyeon, Florence Henderson & Fred Travalena, Gladys Knight & Robert Hays, and Louise DuArt & Stuart Damon.
Wrapping it all up, it looks like they taped six episodes with Elayne Boosler and Ned Beatty, with the first show airing on August 18th and the last airing on August 25th. For the final week, they were back to four celebrities: Sally Struthers, Martha Quinn, Peter DeLuise, and Paul Carafotes.
Whew! I think that's everything. If you have any questions, lemme know.
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Post by feudfan55 on Sept 3, 2023 22:28:50 GMT -5
pyramidfan You say that both Win, Lose, or Draw and Super Password were preempted on December 8, 1988. According to Vanderbilt, that was the day that Gorbachev left the US. There are three different NBC Specials listed for that day. tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/898061tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/898062tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/898063None of them list times, but is it possible that this preemption accounts for Wheel of Fortune from that day as well? And that this was the December preemption that threw off Pat's last daytime show from Friday to Monday and not the bombing of Pan Am 103? Since that occurred at 2 pm ET, which was when Another World was on? Apologies if this is considered hijacking the thread.
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Post by vahan on Sept 3, 2023 22:41:29 GMT -5
Wow. That's a lot of information. Just made some edits to the online guide as best as I could, based on it. Any changes I should make, or is that good enough for now?
So, December 8 was what preempted Super Password, Scrabble, WOF, and WLOD? It didn't affect $ale of the Century and Classic Concentration. And I knew it couldn't have been the Pan AM 103 hijacking in Lockerbie, because that happened well after the game shows had finished airing that day.
You said the Syndicated run had 40, 38, and 37 weeks respectively for Seasons 1, 2, and 3. Turns out I was pretty close for the first two seasons, with all 40 and 33 respectively identified. I only identified 7 for Season 3.
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Post by pyramidfan on Sept 4, 2023 8:37:26 GMT -5
pyramidfan You say that both Win, Lose, or Draw and Super Password were preempted on December 8, 1988. According to Vanderbilt, that was the day that Gorbachev left the US. There are three different NBC Specials listed for that day. tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/898061tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/898062tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/898063None of them list times, but is it possible that this preemption accounts for Wheel of Fortune from that day as well? And that this was the December preemption that threw off Pat's last daytime show from Friday to Monday and not the bombing of Pan Am 103? Since that occurred at 2 pm ET, which was when Another World was on? Apologies if this is considered hijacking the thread. I don't know for sure that "Win" was preempted on December 8, 1988. I only said it was likely, because "Super Password" had been preempted that day. I only know about that because I taped the show every day back then, so I don't have any information about whether "Wheel" was preempted that day. |
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Post by pyramidfan on Sept 4, 2023 8:47:09 GMT -5
Wow. That's a lot of information. Just made some edits to the online guide as best as I could, based on it. Any changes I should make, or is that good enough for now? In regard to the preemptions, nothing more I can think of right now. Maybe just a note, though, that Gibbons, Rudner, Morita, and Weiss are only listed to have appeared on November 23, 1988, not the whole week. You might have information that I haven't seen, though.
I do think it's odd that the Baltimore newspaper only had celebrity information for that one day and not the whole week. Maybe there's a press release out there somewhere.
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Post by vahan on Sept 9, 2023 13:40:13 GMT -5
I see someone else has filled in more Daytime weeks. Not sure if they're accurate or not.
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Post by pyramidfan on Sept 10, 2023 20:01:53 GMT -5
I see someone else has filled in more Daytime weeks. Not sure if they're accurate or not. I combed through it, and it all jibes with my notes -- for what that's worth.
I didn't know that we had an exact air week for the Martin Mull episodes in February 1988, though. I had it narrowed down to one of the last two weeks of that month. |
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