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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 8, 2015 16:18:21 GMT -5
Buzzr cost GSN maybe 20-30 viewers at most and that was just because people were not wanting to switch to GSN due to the novelty of a new network. First, few people have it as not only is it only in certain markets but it's only available via antenna. Second, if someone likes Match Game, Press Your Luck, and/or Card Sharks. What would stop those people from watching on both channels? Nothing. I've watched reruns from multiple channels before, why would anyone think people wouldn't here? The test will be once Buzzr is more established and if/when they drop those shows altogether. For all talk about Buzzr proper, click here. For all talk about ratings pertaining to GSN, click here. I'm going to say this: Stop bringing up "GSN against Buzzr" in both of the linked threads. Post in those threads with information pertaining to those topics without making both turn into debates. This is the only thread that discussion relating to this subject will go. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 4:28:36 GMT -5
Plus, keep in mind that the lower numbers for Match Game, Card Sharks and Press Your Luck, I think it may have occurred when Buzzr was in its first morning and viewers probably wanted to see what the schedule was like, and maybe when they learned that the morning block on Buzzr repeats later in the afternoon, viewers likely devoted mornings to GSN's existing classics and watched Buzzr's daytime lineup in the afternoons from that day forward.
I think classics on GSN are here to stay for a while yet. However, I'm amazed that one of the Eubanks' Card Sharks airings was closer to 400,000 viewers.
However, I realized that the really high numbers, sounds more like Memorial Day norms.
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Jun 12, 2015 20:53:37 GMT -5
For curiosity's sake, I wish I could find out how many households GSN had when it first launched. GSN seemed to start with small potatoes as well.
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Post by caseyabell on Jun 13, 2015 8:39:01 GMT -5
Anyway, the evidence is incontrovertible. Buzzr is having no discernible influence at all on the numbers for GSN. Exactly the opposite, in fact. GSN is doing better business since Buzzr launched. I realize that's not a popular viewpoint around here. This board is full of cheerleaders for Buzzr.
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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 13, 2015 11:46:57 GMT -5
Yeah....Buzzr coming on has caused GSN to do better. That's a coincidence or a new/returning show people want to see being on GSN and to suggest otherwise which by your own words you seem to be doing is disengenuous at best. Common sense would have told anyone Buzzr would cause no significant decline of ratings to GSN. That same common sense says Buzzr is not helping GSN's ratings either.
Yes, I know this belonged in the GSN vs Buzzr thread but it was a reply to another that belonged there. Replying there without the original would have looked very strange.
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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 13, 2015 15:52:45 GMT -5
No idea, but it was on some cable outlets and I would presume the mini dishes though they were in their infancy in terms of popularity then as well. It wasn't whatever would have been the equivalent in 94 to a broadcast TV subchannel in a few markets. And in even those; very little, if any cable coverage. Plus, as has been pointed out, as much as some like old game shows. These same ones airing in 1994 were a lot more recent than they are now.
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Post by caseyabell on Jun 13, 2015 22:43:19 GMT -5
"Common sense would have told anyone Buzzr would cause no significant decline of ratings to GSN."
Maybe so, but on Game Show Network News one commenter predicted that Buzzr would take 50K off GSN's averages. And there have been plenty of other comments on Facebook predicting (or hoping) that Buzzr would cut into GSN's numbers...and basically trash GSN entirely. I guess common sense is in short supply in some quarters.
Anyway, I agree that Buzzr is having no impact on GSN's ratings...now. But if the subchannel updates its schedule with shows that appeal to a much wider audience beyond a few hardcore classics fans on the Internet, well, things could get interesting.
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Post by Mandoli on Jun 15, 2015 14:44:07 GMT -5
Anyway, I agree that Buzzr is having no impact on GSN's ratings... now. But if the subchannel updates its schedule with shows that appeal to a much wider audience beyond a few hardcore classics fans on the Internet, well, things could get interesting. How modern would you like the network to go? Remember - let's say that, for some strange reason, Harvey pops up on where Feud airs. Do you think you'd want to see another network cave in to what people demand? If anything, why not air something that's still "modern", but doesn't necessarily have to be from the previous season. O'Hurley would be my safe, go-to idea. But I'm not Buzzr, so I don't know what they'd do. |
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Post by caseyabell on Jun 16, 2015 12:33:50 GMT -5
"Do you think you'd want to see another network cave in to what people demand?"
This is commercial TV. If you don't "cave in to what people demand," you get cancelled. Of course, Harvey Feud will be on Buzzr sooner or later. It's the hottest property that Fremantle has right now. If they can get CBS to agree, Carey TPiR will also be on the subchannel.
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Post by Mandoli on Jun 16, 2015 15:26:27 GMT -5
Of course, Harvey Feud will be on Buzzr sooner or later. It's the hottest property that Fremantle has right now. So Buzzr (if I had it) would be just another network for me to ignore. Harvey is overrated, in my opinion. |
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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 16, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -5
Hard to say he's overrated when it gets the ratings it gets. My thing is if it's added to buzzr, that makes 4 networks it's on: GSN, Buzzr, TV Land, and the local affiliate airing the show.
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Jun 16, 2015 18:48:12 GMT -5
Hard to say he's overrated when it gets the ratings it gets. My thing is if it's added to buzzr, that makes 4 networks it's on: GSN, Buzzr, TV Land, and the local affiliate airing the show. Exactly. My local affiliate airs Harvey Feud 4 times a day and there's his talk show too on another station. I'm all for diversifying Buzzr's schedule a bit, especially on weekends, but I'm not here for Harvey marathons every day. This is too much Steve. |
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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 16, 2015 18:53:17 GMT -5
4?! Does he actually do 4 different episodes a day?
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Jun 16, 2015 19:01:36 GMT -5
4?! Does he actually do 4 different episodes a day? The station in question does this every time a show in first-run syndication gets canceled (this marks the second year in a row) and they need an hour to fill the time. I imagine when the new episodes for the season were running, two of them would be reruns. They'll probably trim it back to two but in the mean time, it's 4 a day. And the Fox affiliate that runs the talk show is running 2 episodes a day until a new show debuts next month in one of the slots. It's almost as if both stations were like "We don't know what else to run, so throw on some extra Steve." I do not want Buzzr to find themselves in this predicament. They have a lot more at their disposal than one version of Family Feud and material starring just one person. I want to see something besides Dawson too in the near future but shooting straight to Harvey when there's other hosts too (and other shows in general that they own) would be disappointing. I could just watch another channel if I wanted a Harvey fix that bad. |
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Post by pzimm7778 on Jun 16, 2015 20:08:49 GMT -5
A few years back when GSN was running everyone but Combs Feud I said I'd have liked it if GSN did a marathon of Feud through the years and done one or Dawson, Combs, OHurley, whoever the other guy was, and Harvey. No one seems to care about when Louie Anderson hosted but if they did want to do that, Buzzr (or GSN back then) could have had 3 hours of 6 different hosts of the same show. That'd be cool to watch the show change through the decades like that. And it would give Buzzr in this case something unique.
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