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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 14:59:25 GMT -5
I remember watching reruns of The Joker's Wild during the summer of 1984 on WVII (the ABC affiliate in Bangor, Maine back then). I first discovered the show in April 1984 during Easter break from school, and if memory serves correctly, I don't think I got to notice the Devil in the Face the Devil end game until May 21, 1984 on my school holiday (little did I know that it was the Monday episode of Jack Barry's final week as host, though he was already deceased by that point).
In the summer 1984 reruns, I recall seeing the Fast Forward categories, but not the Bid categories. I read somewhere that the Bid categories debuted during the 1983-84 season. I also read somewhere that the devil icon was rumored to resemble Jack Barry. I am not sure if I see any close resemblence to Mr. Barry.
I do have one question: Have there been any seasons from the 1977-1986 syndicated run that GSN never aired? I do know GSN did air at least one of the Cullen seasons, and most likely Javk Barry's final season from 1983-84.
Was it also true that the 1990 revival had its finale in March 1991 and not later in May or June that year? I honestly think that version was awful, yet it lasted twice as long as the 1990 Tic Tac Dough revival.
I enjoyed The Joker's Wild more during 1980 to 1984. I didn't care for the show after Jack Barry left, and not because of Bill Cullen, but more due to the overkill of special categories along with the elimination of the audience game in 1985-86.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 15:06:47 GMT -5
Also, i'd like to ask, I learned that the Mystery category was dropped during Bill Cullen's run. Was it probably due to an occurrence where the Mystery category was spun after the maximum seven questions in play were exhausted? If so, I can see why it needed to be retired.
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Post by vahan on Mar 26, 2017 15:37:53 GMT -5
GSN never ran the later part of the 1980-1981 season and 1981-1982. They also never ran 1984-1985 (which USA ran) and the tail end of 1985-1986.
The 1984-1985 season was notable for having a Telephone Home Game during the bonus round.
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Post by aaaa on Mar 26, 2017 15:56:58 GMT -5
GSN never ran the 1983-84 season of JOker save for one episode in Summer 2006 during their evening "50 greatest game shows" marathon. THey only ran the first two months or so of the 1978-79 season, on Sunday nights in 2000-2001, ending midway through the November 1978 TofC.
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Post by vahan on Mar 26, 2017 15:58:37 GMT -5
I still don't know why GSN skipped the 84-85 season. If it was the Phone Game, again, USA had no problem airing it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 16:00:04 GMT -5
Also, GSN aired a limited number of episodes from the first CBS season, if I recall, and the premiere was included in the lease.
I did read that GSN acquired some of the earliest CBS episodes because they learned about a discovery of tapes from the first season. Did the discovery occur at a CBS affiliate? Is there a link to an article that explains the discovery?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 16:02:51 GMT -5
I am thinking The Joker's Wild never did well in the ratings on GSN. I wonder if it had to do with a host or the show tying in to the game show (rigging) scandals back in the day and damaged Jack Barry's and Dan Enright's reputation?
I can see why the last lease of Tic Tac Dough ran for only one year. Might be due to the stigma, or leasing a larger number of episodes.
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Post by vahan on Mar 26, 2017 16:04:24 GMT -5
I am thinking The Joker's Wild never did well in the ratings on GSN. I wonder if it had to do with a host or the show tying in to the game show (rigging) scandals back in the day? It was because it was a straight up Q&A, and average casual viewers tend to ignore those shows. Why it and TTD were on GSN for so long despite poor ratings, I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 16:09:29 GMT -5
I am thinking The Joker's Wild never did well in the ratings on GSN. I wonder if it had to do with a host or the show tying in to the game show (rigging) scandals back in the day? It was because it was a straight up Q&A, and average casual viewers tend to ignore those shows. Why it and TTD were on GSN for so long despite poor ratings, I don't know. That also might explain why Jeopardy! and $ale of the Century didn't do well in recent years. Shows that primarily deal with trivia doesn't seem to do well. Press Your Luck involves trivia, but that lasts only four to five minutes total as opposed to more than ten to twelve minutes of the big board.
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Post by vahan on Mar 26, 2017 16:13:45 GMT -5
Hopefully, the Syndicated Sale that's currently airing on Buzzr does well enough to make it past Crystal Miller's run, which ended during episodes #196-#200.
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Post by aaaa on Mar 26, 2017 17:35:18 GMT -5
GSN aired most of the CBS Joker run from 9/4/72-April 1973 from 12/4/2000-August 2001, with a few skipped episodes. It was weekdays at 11AM-3PM from 12/4/2000-6/29/2001, and then moved to Sunday nights at 11:30PM for the next two months(where GSN was airing the 1978-79 season for about a year beforehand). When PYL and LMAD were gotten by GSN, Joker and Tic(which for the past year had been airing only the Jim Caldwell season, and only on weekend mornings) were off the schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 18:16:22 GMT -5
I did read on the Barry & Enright Wiki that The Joker's Wild had a special category called "Take a Chance." This sounds reminiscent of "Trivia Dare" on Tic Tac Dough, but it may have different rules for The Joker's Wild. I did notice on Game Shows Wiki a gallery of close-ups of category slides, most likely screenshots from videos that used to exist on YouTube. Unless I missed something, I never found an image of a "Take a Chance" slide on said gallery.
Also, aside from "How Low Can You Go?", "Fact or Foto" and "Choose the Clues", are there other special categories from Tic Tac Dough that were also used on The Joker's Wild, even if the rules may have been modified?
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Post by carpetcrawler on Mar 26, 2017 19:51:03 GMT -5
I did read that GSN acquired some of the earliest CBS episodes because they learned about a discovery of tapes from the first season. Did the discovery occur at a CBS affiliate? Is there a link to an article that explains the discovery? It was WCBS in New York. Spin-Off was also discovered completely intact but GSN had no interest in airing that series. I wonder if it had to do with a host or the show tying in to the game show (rigging) scandals back in the day and damaged Jack Barry's and Dan Enright's reputation? I think 80% of GSN's viewerbase had no idea what the hell the quiz show scandals even were. So now I'm completely confused. Can we get a bullet-list of what GSN has and hasn't aired of the syndicated run of The Joker's Wild? I still don't know why GSN skipped the 84-85 season. There was no reason.
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Post by Mandoli on Mar 26, 2017 19:51:45 GMT -5
I added the "Show Discussion" label to this thread. Carry on.
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Post by vahan on Mar 26, 2017 20:05:16 GMT -5
I did read that GSN acquired some of the earliest CBS episodes because they learned about a discovery of tapes from the first season. Did the discovery occur at a CBS affiliate? Is there a link to an article that explains the discovery? It was WCBS in New York. Spin-Off was also discovered completely intact but GSN had no interest in airing that series. I wonder if it had to do with a host or the show tying in to the game show (rigging) scandals back in the day and damaged Jack Barry's and Dan Enright's reputation? I think 80% of GSN's viewerbase had no idea what the hell the quiz show scandals even were. So now I'm completely confused. Can we get a bullet-list of what GSN has and hasn't aired of the syndicated run of The Joker's Wild? I still don't know why GSN skipped the 84-85 season. There was no reason. And also discovered in 2000 were all three weeks of the L.A. The $10,000 Pyramid ( Pyramid turns 39 today) that were done at CBS Television City Studio 31 and The Hollywood Squares. (though the latter was not in the same vault as those other three)
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