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Post by Mario500 on Apr 5, 2015 19:30:55 GMT -5
I was able to watch the first and second editions of "Monopoly Millionaires' Club" in one of the states without a lottery through my local cable TV system's standard and high-definition cable TV channels for providing programming from one of the local TV stations in a state near me with a lottery.
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Post by Kaos on Apr 7, 2015 19:04:29 GMT -5
the show I'm talking about was American Dream Derby awarded a quarter mil As one of my local sports columnists might have said, "Reality shows do not count, stirrup breath."
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Post by manekineko on Apr 20, 2015 0:37:50 GMT -5
For example, Nevada is the "gamblingest" state in the union, and yet it's one of the handful that prohibits lotteries. I think we can reasonably guess that the Nevada casinos don't want the competition. Not exactly. If you live in Nevada, you know what are called payback odds. They're part of your every day life. When you consider that most lotteries have a payback of 50%, and most casinos are running 96 to 97%, it just makes sense not to have lotteries in Nevada. I have to admit, Billy Gardell is a better host than I thought he would be. It's kinda a shame that this one isn't going longer than 8 episodes.
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Post by renoalliance on Apr 20, 2015 19:10:48 GMT -5
When you consider that most lotteries have a payback of 50%, and most casinos are running 96 to 97%, it just makes sense not to have lotteries in Nevada. That's possibly the consensus view, but it's far from unanimous. Here's one author's opinion: www.reviewjournal.com/trending/silver-state/knowing-vegas-why-doesn-t-nevada-have-state-lotteryLottery approval has been attempted repeatedly. Here's a 2009 headline: "State lottery bill appears dead -- again." www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada-legislature/state-lottery-bill-appears-dead-againAnd your 96-97% casino payback estimate may be plausible for intelligent, disciplined gamblers who make the best decisions, but that's not the typical lottery enthusiast. Casinos offer a lottery variant called ("live") keno, with paybacks ranging from 50 to 80%. wizardofodds.com/games/keno/Keno machines pay back about 90%, but the much faster speed of play encourages higher total wagers. Penny slots pay back about 90%, but again the speed of play can easily suck a wallet dry. I don't see any reason to assume a Nevada lottery would lack customers. As far as I know, the top-selling Arizona and California lottery retailers are located near the Nevada border. The Nevada town of Primm has exactly one structure on the California side -- it's a convenience store built to sell lottery tickets to people from Las Vegas 45 minutes away. I have to admit, Billy Gardell is a better host than I thought he would be. It's kinda a shame that this one isn't going longer than 8 episodes. He's aight, but I lost my enthusiasm when he encouraged a contestant to seek help from the audience when choosing a random number.
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Post by manekineko on May 8, 2015 23:44:29 GMT -5
In order to be a gambler and not just a person who throws his money into the air, you have to actually calculate odds. In Texas Hold 'em, everything revolves around 1,326 starting hands, a thing called pot odds and whether it's worth taking the risk with the number of "outs" you have. Same thing here. State Lotteries are sometimes known as the "Idiot Tax", because the paybacks are so low compared to what you put in. Hell, the schools don't even get the 33% that the lottery promises. Generally speaking, they tend to get 1 to 2% and the state coffers eat the rest. Think about this. The powerball has odds of 1.75*10^8 odds of you winning the jackpot. You are literally 40 times as likely to be killed in the car driving one mile to buy the ticket. If you buy 20 tickets a week, it would take you 1.7*10^5 years to win one jackpot -- That's 170,000 years in layman's terms. Penny and Nickel slots have a lower payback for a simple reason. It costs a lot of money to keep those machines lit and making sounds. I noticed you didn't quote the $1 or $5 slots and the fact tis hat those have a very high payback, because they need to keep customers in there spending their money. Technically there are ways to beat the house, such as that many casinos will give you a free pull if you cash your paycheck there with no fee, or that you can claim steak dinners for $6.99, because their money is in the slots, it's true that not all games do that but to be a gambler, you really have to be constantly running calculations in your head on whether it's worth it or not. Otherwise you're just a sucker. Gambling is really like any other vocation in the world. You need to do your homework and see what games are worth your time and which aren't. Plain and simple.
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Post by renoalliance on May 12, 2015 10:59:15 GMT -5
I noticed you didn't quote the $1 or $5 slots and the fact tis hat those have a very high payback, because they need to keep customers in there spending their money. I was wondering whether lotteries use similar tactics to encourage higher-denomination play. This is a tiny sample, but Texas has scratch games ranging from $2 to $20. For the $2 game, I calculate a payback of only 65% ($14.7m in/$9.5m out), whereas the $20 game pays back 73% ($683m in/$500m out). (I checked a few other states, but they don't provide sufficient details for easy calculation.) Back to the show itself, I love that the full episodes are reliably posted to the official YouTube channel. I'm almost enjoying the show, although I do skip ahead a lot. Host Billy Gardell is competent, and it's refreshing to see ordinary people as contestants. The mini games are visually appealing and very clever, although I tire quickly of seeing the same games every week, so I hope they continue adding new ones. The bonus game is not very imaginative, but the win potential is certainly huge, although actual suspense may vary depending on your ability to avoid spoilers
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Post by WarioSajak on May 13, 2015 0:01:52 GMT -5
Back to the show itself, I love that the full episodes are reliably posted to the official YouTube channel. I'm almost enjoying the show, although I do skip ahead a lot. This, pretty much. I actually enjoy the show for several reasons: * It's in the Cash Tornado style of lottery game shows. * It uses physical props for most if not all of its games. * The bonus round, which I'll get to in a bit. Host Billy Gardell is competent, and it's refreshing to see ordinary people as contestants. Gardell I'll give you to an extent (although Todd Newton really should be co-host), although I've seen a few comments online that remarked on how it felt like a few of the contestants were casted. The mini games are visually appealing and very clever, although I tire quickly of seeing the same games every week, so I hope they continue adding new ones. Agreed on the first part, although by all indication they're trying to go the Price Is Right route and introduce more games over time. Unless something's debuted in the past show or so, they have Electric Company, Ride the Rails, Block Party, No Vacancy, Advance to Boardwalk, Park-It, Community Chest, and Bank Buster (plus Cash Register, Money Bags, and Hotels for the Todd Newton-hosted segments)...and unless something else has changed, no games are "locked" to any particular slots. That said, I'm not really a fan of Ride the Rails, if only because the audience and Gardell keep chanting the cash total for each new train car and that kinda grates on me. Even though Block Party uses physical cards, I just don't find it really fun to watch, either. The bonus game is not very imaginative, but the win potential is certainly huge, although actual suspense may vary depending on your ability to avoid spoilers The bonus game is pretty much the same as Merv Griffin's version of it (1990, plus the preceding pilots), just without the extra Go To Jail spaces and with way more on offer. The fact it's pretty much the exact same endgame is another plus in my book. But yeah, given Scott St. John's involved with this I'm not really surprised there's spoilers in the intro.
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Post by renoalliance on May 13, 2015 19:53:53 GMT -5
... although I've seen a few comments online that remarked on how it felt like a few of the contestants were casted. Interesting ... I wasn't aware of that speculation. My guess would be that they (randomly) choose the contestants off-camera to allow for coaching/warm-up, and assistance with wardrobe/grooming. But I don't know. That said, I'm not really a fan of Ride the Rails, if only because the audience and Gardell keep chanting the cash total for each new train car and that kinda grates on me. LOL, I cannot disagree, but I do enjoy the strategy aspect of deciding when to stop each train.
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Post by ladykelsey on May 13, 2015 20:09:24 GMT -5
How awesome of a job does Todd Newton do on Monopoly Millionaires Club? Because I've followed Todd Newton's career since Whammy The All-New Press Your Luck came on in reruns each morning on GSN and Todd never ceases to amaze me with every game show he stars in and I am surprised that Todd Newton stars with Billy Gardell in Monopoly Millionaires Club., Kelsey
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Post by renoalliance on May 13, 2015 20:51:44 GMT -5
How awesome of a job does Todd Newton do on Monopoly Millionaires Club? Todd's job on the show is very limited. He's on screen for maybe 2 minutes per episode. But it's 2 minutes of awesomeness
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Post by WarioSajak on May 13, 2015 21:04:45 GMT -5
Two minutes that are in a completely different room with no relation to anything else on the show...but yeah, Todd's good despite what little he's given to do. I just wish he was co-host so we could have that greatness in the rest of the show.
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Post by ladykelsey on Aug 11, 2015 0:59:16 GMT -5
Is Monopoly Millionaires Club gonna get renewed for a second season? Because I haven't heard much about it, Kelsey
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Post by caseyabell on Aug 11, 2015 8:03:44 GMT -5
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Post by manekineko on Aug 14, 2015 6:22:36 GMT -5
There is a new season but you have to "stay tuned" to see when it will air.
The cutting to half an hour spells trouble. Twilight Zone had hour-long episodes in the 4th season and people did not like the change. I sense something similar here.
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Post by manekineko on Sept 15, 2015 18:43:00 GMT -5
oh and I saw MMC as a half-hour show. Everything seems rushed.
Only 3 games are played now, Billy only gets a few seconds to describe the game and then they do the highest-to-lowest like they do on LMAD.
Also note the odds are worse on the Todd Newton cash game. Only 2 buttons have two zeroes on them. Your odds of getting $10,000 have been reduced by 67%.
It's still MMC, and the possibility is still there of a big payday, but it doesn't feel as much of a party with the show being only 30 minutes.
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