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Post by pyramidfan on Nov 17, 2020 14:38:51 GMT -5
How accurate are the 1987 episode numbers on markgoodson.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Password/Episode_Guide? Almost all of them seem to be numbered in the order of how they aired. That seems odd to me, given how many celebrity weeks there were. 1988 seems to be "normal," with some of the celeb weeks airing being aired in a different order than they were taped. Here's which weeks I only saw four episodes of on GSN. You should use the totals at the beginning and end of each episode as a guide. Dobie Gillis Week (February 08-12, 1988) Molly Cheek & Roger E. Mosley (May 23-27, 1988) Marsha Warfield & Pat McCormick (July 04-08, 1988) Anne Meara & Paul Kreppel (August 22-26, 1988) Dee Wallace Stone & Tom Poston (September 26-30, 1988) Lainie Kazan, Dorian Harewood, Chad Everett, Jack Jones (October 17-21, 1988) There were five full episodes for the "Dobie," Cheek/Mosley, Stone/Poston, and Kazan weeks. I know GSN skipped the Friday episode of the "Dobie" week and the Wednesday episode of the Cheek/Mosley week. I want to say the Friday episode of Stone/Poston was skipped, but I can't swear to it. I don't know which episode of the Kazan week was skipped.
The Warfield/McCormick and Meara/Kreppel weeks each only had four episodes.
Are we sure about the episode numbers for the "Golden Girls" vs. "Life with Lucy" week?
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Post by vahan on Nov 17, 2020 14:44:45 GMT -5
I remember they were shown on GSN immediately after that other All-Stars Week that taped in 1986 and aired in 1987.
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Post by vahan on Nov 17, 2020 14:50:54 GMT -5
Looking up the newspapers archives, I noticed two Wimbledon preemptions for July 1988; 01 and 04.
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Post by pyramidfan on Nov 17, 2020 19:35:40 GMT -5
I remember they were shown on GSN immediately after that other All-Stars Week that taped in 1986 and aired in 1987. The reason I ask is because the tape date is throwing me.
The last episode with civilian contestants that was taped before the Starlight Foundation week was 569, with Teresa Ganzel and Jamie Farr. The Starlight episodes were 570-574. (Those numbers are confirmed by GSN schedule .pdf files.) If the "Golden"/"Lucy" week was taped on December 2, 1986 -- the date that Desi Arnaz died, according to Betty White -- and they were 575-579, that would mean that the Patty Duke/Ed Winter week was 580-584 and was taped after that.
Problem is, the Duke/Winter week was originally supposed to have started airing on December 1st, so there's no way it could have been taped after the Lucy week, if the Lucy week was indeed taped on December 2nd.
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Post by vahan on Nov 17, 2020 19:49:25 GMT -5
Fascinating. This throws me off, too. Hopefully we'll find out the truth.
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Post by pyramidfan on Nov 18, 2020 11:31:08 GMT -5
I checked my GSN schedules from 1996-1997, and this is what I found out:
It appears that the four all-star weeks that aired in the summer of 1987 were taped in a row, as they aired in order on GSN (with the exception of the David Leisure week, which appears to have been skipped). The last civilian week before this is Jamie Farr and Stuart Pankin.
For the rest of 1987, the only other switch from what's on the Wiki page is that the week with "Night Court" vs. "Dynasty" was taped right after the Daphne Maxwell-Reid/Brad Garrett week.
Unfortunately, right around the time that the 1987 episodes end is when the Goodson shows were temporarily removed from GSN, so that's where my info stops. (There are no episode numbers listed in these schedules.)
I don't have any .pdf schedules from 2007, which is when the 1988 episodes would have run again. Does anyone have them or know where they can be found online?
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Post by ivoryface86 on Nov 18, 2020 11:45:53 GMT -5
That's because there weren't any PDF schedules in 2007. So the May-December 1987 episodes are very difficult to identify by taped episode nos. still to this day. Even the taped episode nos. of Camouflage and Season 2 That's the Question are still difficult to identify when
1) The PDF schedules were non-existent in 2007.
2) When Spencer Denison uploads the episodes but Youtube immediately worldwide blocks it because the other shows such as The Amazing Race and Survivor as well as full length movies and sitcoms are also apart of the uploads.
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Post by vahan on Nov 18, 2020 11:49:02 GMT -5
That's because there weren't any PDF schedules in 2007. So the May-December 1987 episodes are very difficult to identify by taped episode nos. still to this day. The only ones from this in which the episode numbers can be confirmed are Lindsay Bloom & Paul Eiding (#0779 aired as part of a big money marathon in 2008), the Father Knows Best Week (#0828-#0832 aired as part of a Boxing Day Marathon in 2008), and James Doohan & Michael Dorn (When Doohan died, GSN ran a tribute with all four episodes, and they were listed as #0833-#0836). |
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Post by pyramidfan on Nov 18, 2020 14:24:49 GMT -5
Just found another one: On Wink Martindale's YouTube page, there's a clip from the Wednesday episode of the Betty White/Dick Martin week, and the slate says "792." That means that week is 790-794.
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Post by pyramidfan on Nov 29, 2020 11:29:22 GMT -5
Found another VTR date. It was mentioned during the Thursday and Friday shows of the Emma Samms/Jamie Farr week in 1988 that it was being taped at the same time as the Bob Hope birthday/anniversary special, and that was recorded on May 1, 1988. Through newspapers, I've also found a bunch of instances where celebrities had to be replaced on a week's worth of shows: 9/8/86: Debbie Maffet for Marcia Wallace 5/25/87: Edward Winter for Dean Butler 2/8/88: Scott Grimes for Bob Denver 6/27/88: Jory Husein for Jonathan Ward 11/21/88: Dwight Stones for André Phillips 12/26/88: Rebeca Arthur for Susan Ruttan 1/30/89: Rebeca Arthur (again!) for Sally Struthers
"Super Password" celebs didn't start to be listed on a regular basis in newspapers until late mid-1986, so I'm sure there are more instances that we don't know about.
The Dwight Stones substitution makes sense to me now -- finally. I always wondered why they'd have an Olympic-themed week and not book four gold medalists. Now I know -- they did, but one of them dropped out.
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Post by aaaa on Nov 29, 2020 14:34:45 GMT -5
Jamie Farr was on two weeks in a row on Xmas week 1984(12/24-12/28 with Shelley Smith) and New Year's Week 1985(12/31-1/4 with Lauri Hendler). It's possible one of those weeks he pinch hitted for someone. Jamie Farr and Gary Burghoff were the celebs on 11/11-11/15/1985 and 12/23-12/27/1985, so perhaps Burghoff or Farr was a pinch hitter on one of those weeks.
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Post by pyramidfan on Nov 29, 2020 15:58:07 GMT -5
Jamie definitely had to be a pinch-hitter for someone else that New Year's week of 1984. I'd guess that he was also a sub in August 1987 against Stuart Pankin. That week had been taped far ahead of its air dates, though, so the newspaper listings were correct.
I'd also bet that Tom Poston was a sub for someone else when he played against Bill Cullen in 1985. It was the first time they had two men competing, and Tom had just been on seven weeks earlier.
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Post by vahan on Dec 18, 2020 21:39:03 GMT -5
Confirmed: The January 1987 All-Star week was was taped on November 23, 1986, because Buzzr posted the slate on Facebook. Now THAT makes sense than what we thought had been the date in question.
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Post by vahan on Jun 2, 2021 10:05:49 GMT -5
A good friend just confirmed the tape date for the first Newharts and Martins week, which GSN has always skipped: October 12, 1986. Episode numbers were indeed #0550-#0554.
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Post by Mike on Jun 11, 2021 15:58:52 GMT -5
Jamie Farr and Gary Burghoff were the celebs on 11/11-11/15/1985 and 12/23-12/27/1985, so perhaps Burghoff or Farr was a pinch hitter on one of those weeks. Something that might provide additional timing context with regards to the former week? VTR for the following week, 11/18-22/1985. On 11/21, Bert says it's Gene Wood's birthday (upon which, he comes onstage for a bit), and that was October 20. |
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