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Post by aaaa on Oct 10, 2018 15:49:55 GMT -5
Hope Rick Rosner didn't order the tapes destroyed. It is NEVER the network's fault if some NBC game shows don't exist anymore. Usually, it is the production company's fault. Pre-1985 Wheel doesn't exist anymore because of Merv Griffin's production policy. Don Reid lost all the tapes of Dream House not because he ordered them destroyed, but because there was a flood in his home. Didn't GSN say many years before that they have all of both runs of Battlestars? The Just Men! episode you linked to comes from the second-to-last week of the series. Perhaps they meant March 23, 1983, not March 23, 1979? I don't think GSN would have had Battlestars at it was owned by Heatter in the 80s and 90s, and the international format rights to the Heatter shows done with Quigley went to King World in 1999(MGM owns the format rights to High Rollers, despite Heatter working with Orion on the 1987 version). King World was absorbed into Sony pictures later in the 2000s. GSN had the rights to Fantasy and aired one episode of it as it was done by Merrill Heatter in association with Columbia PIctures, now part of Sony. |
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Post by carpetcrawler on Oct 10, 2018 17:26:04 GMT -5
The Just Men! episode you linked to comes from the second-to-last week of the series. Perhaps they meant March 23, 1983, not March 23, 1979? That's what I think too. They claim they have a Jeopardy! from 1970 but they also claim the 2,000th episode (which they also have) aired in 1969 so I just assumed it was one of the ones we've long had and disregarded it. |
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Post by vahan on Aug 20, 2019 14:57:21 GMT -5
I forgot this thread existed, until just now.
On Facebook, Adam Nedeff revealed some surprising new information about Daytime Game Shows thought to be gone forever. I'll quote him directly:
Is there a way for Buzzr to be aware and acquire the Daytime runs of TTTT and PW? This is very fascinating stuff. If any color episodes exist, they would definitely make the Syndicated copies obsolete, restoring the original versions with the sponsors. Password and To Tell the Truth were hugely popular on CBS Daytime throughout the 1960's, so having the almost entire runs of both shows would be a blessing.
Also, UCLA has one Daytime episode of Password from September 15, 1965 with The Smothers Brothers.
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Post by aaaa on Aug 20, 2019 15:44:21 GMT -5
High Rollers would be somewhat of a draw as Trebek of course is still visible on TV, unlike most of the other people who hosted game shows in the 70s. It was stated by someone in the online game show community, I think by Curt Alliaume, that part of the reason Classic Concentration was picked up by Buzzr is because of Trebek having hosted it. I wonder why the mid 70s HR exists and not the later 70s version? Would the weekly syndicated 1975-76 version exist? But MGM would own the rights to High Rollers at this point I believe, and MGM would have to be gone through to get the rights to air it.
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Post by carpetcrawler on Aug 20, 2019 16:04:15 GMT -5
My assumption is "figuring out if they’ll generate enough revenue to offset the cost of the deal and the conversion" is the reason why no one's been gung ho about doing any digital conversion of it just yet. The argument to be made is that GSN/Buzzr has so much To Tell the Truth/Password in the vault already that the only people who would notice/care enough to have seen every episode already in their libraries are the diehards who, I can't emphasize this enough, really don't matter in the grand scheme no matter how frustrating of a reality it is.
Would love to see this stuff arrive somewhere but also not holding my breath. Happy to know it's around though.
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Post by WarioSajak on Aug 20, 2019 18:55:25 GMT -5
On Facebook, Adam Nedeff revealed some surprising new information about Daytime Game Shows thought to be gone forever. I'll quote him directly: Linking to the post in question would be really cool too, mainly because I can't find it. |
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Post by vahan on Aug 20, 2019 19:02:18 GMT -5
Well, I can't actually link the post; the post came from Chuck Donegan's page. It might be because the page is only open to friends of Chuck's. Thus, I went for the next best thing: Screencaping the post, and saving the image from MS Paint.  |
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Post by ARM103090 on Aug 20, 2019 19:46:00 GMT -5
A Year's Worth of the NBC Run You Don't Say! Also Exist.
Although It Is Unknown Which Years Exist.
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Post by aaaa on Aug 20, 2019 20:47:22 GMT -5
I suppose the year of the NBC You Don't Say that exists may be the last year(1968-69 time frame) as it aired in reruns on local stations in the early 70s, just like the last year of Daytime Password aired in reruns circa 1969-70. The 1978 syndicated You Don't Say might still exist also in Ralph Andrews' estate's vault, also.
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Aug 22, 2019 1:09:26 GMT -5
Buzzr does like to surprise us with rarely shown stuff from time to time when they can, so it wouldn't surprise me later on down the line if they decided to get some of these b/w episodes of TTTT and Password, particularly for a stunt. They're the same network that gave us MGHS Hour and Classic Concentration after it never airing anywhere else after their original runs. Plus they would have more say so in the matter since it's their material.
GSN rarely runs the classic panel shows these days so I don't see them rushing to get them if at all.
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Post by Frank on Aug 25, 2019 14:01:33 GMT -5
yeah if the shows don't have steve harvey than gsn won't go gung ho over it
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Post by aaaa on Aug 25, 2019 14:42:40 GMT -5
Maybe GSN would consider picking up some episodes of the current ABC primetime game show lineup, although it would make more sense for Buzzr to air it since most of it is Fremantle owned shows anyway,
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Post by mdcswildcats86 on Sept 1, 2019 21:24:50 GMT -5
I'm surprised GSN hasn't aired Strahan PYRAMID yet.
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Post by danderson400 on Sept 7, 2019 22:32:48 GMT -5
Could there be more out there, not just game shows? Like the soap opera Another World, to my knowledge, P&G's AW archives don't begin until fall 1979, but you'd never know... CBS has nearly the entire daytime run of the original To Tell the Truth (literally, only about the first month is missing) and maybe NBC didn't destroy the early AW eps?
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Sept 8, 2019 2:59:49 GMT -5
Could there be more out there, not just game shows? Like the soap opera Another World, to my knowledge, P&G's AW archives don't begin until fall 1979, but you'd never know... CBS has nearly the entire daytime run of the original To Tell the Truth (literally, only about the first month is missing) and maybe NBC didn't destroy the early AW eps? There seem to be a handful of episodes that are available before that time frame, I think most of those are at the Paley Center. Rue McClanahan's Lifetime Intimate Portrait special had a small clip of her on that show in it. I would love to be surprised and find out about any more that's available, but I'm not getting my hopes up. IIRC, Procter & Gamble was more than likely in charge of the videotapes and kinescopes, and chances are if a program was live (which a show like AW was in its early years), it might not have been recorded very often officially anyway. This is what the case seems to be with the original version of Match Game and part of the reason why there are so few episodes of that in existence.
I wish more daytime shows operated like Screen Gems/Columbia back in the day did. I mean, Goodson-Todman did a better job than most other production companies and there's so much to work with in the current Fremantle archives now, but with the former SG, all of Days of our Lives and all of The Young and the Restless exist in some form, either on original tapes that they were recorded on or kinescope backup copies. Even thanks to their archiving, all of The Diamond Head Game is available.
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