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Post by thekid965 on Apr 14, 2014 16:49:33 GMT -5
Here's a look at how game shows are developed in the pre-pilot stage. This is an informal run-through for a revival of Classic Concentration from around November of 1992 that not only never saw the light of day, it didn't even get as far as a full-scale pilot being made. " Classic Concentration II" (obviously a placeholder title) featured two contestants facing off against each other for bonus money and the right to unseat the champion, in a round vaguely reminiscent of Eye Guess. I can only assume this was the original proposal for what eventually became a short-lived rerun cycle of the 1987-91 series in 1993. Veteran G-T/MGP producer Chester Feldman introduces the run-through and explains the concept, and Alex Trebek's sense of humor is as wonderfully dry and sarcastic as ever. This is quite an impressive find for any Concentration fan. Check it out!
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Post by ladykelsey on Apr 15, 2014 18:41:42 GMT -5
Classic Concentration was gonna be revived and renamed Classic Concentration II? That's a really interesting fact about Concentration that is pretty amazing. My father and I used to play Concentration with my handheld game of it and Classic Concentration is a really cool game show that should air reruns on GSN someday. But Classic Concentration II sounds awesome and NBC should have done it and they would've had a huge hit on their hands, Kelsey
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Post by wildjackmonroe on Apr 15, 2014 20:29:16 GMT -5
I wish NBC didn't have such a tight hold on the rights of this show. It's been years and years and nothing's been done with it at all (or at least nothing we know about). It'd be nice to see some reruns at least.
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Post by thekid965 on Apr 16, 2014 10:41:08 GMT -5
I could be mistaken, but I think NBC actually did try to revive it at least once during the post-Millionaire game show boom of the early '00s. Or maybe it was during the Deal or No Deal era, I'm not sure exactly when I heard this story. Either way, it didn't get much beyond the planning stages, if memory serves because it would've been a daytime series and the affiliate stations didn't want to give the network back timeslots that they'd already relinquished.
That doesn't mean NBC can't or won't try again down the line, though. Unfortunately, being part of one of the most profitable broadcasting conglomerates in the world (that just keeps getting more profitable and "conglomerate-ing") makes them increasingly risk-averse. While I agree they need to loosen their stranglehold on the extant rerun package they co-own with Fremantle [1], because that's just silly, I feel the only way we'll ever see Concentration return to the air is as a syndicated series distributed through Comcast/NBC Universal -- and I wouldn't hold my breath.
[1] A potted history lesson for you young'uns who've only ever known Classic Concentration: While that series, and the 1973-78 Jack Narz syndie version that predated it, were Mark Goodson (- Bill Todman) Productions and are considered part of that family, the format rights to Concentration itself are owned lock, stock and barrel by NBC. They have been ever since a pair of gentlemen by the names of Barry and Enright sold the format, which they'd developed, directly to the network -- a fortuitous move on their part, as it wasn't long after that the Quiz Show Scandals hit the fan and blacklisted both of them for almost fifteen years. G-T had absolutely nothing to do with the original NBC series -- indeed, the bulk of the original's run came during a period when NBC and G-T weren't on speaking terms -- and only came on board when the show moved off-network in '73. As a result, any potential revival (or rerun package of the Narz or Trebek versions, both of which are incidentally believed to survive intact) would have to go through Comcast/NBCU at some point, and they've repeatedly shown their complete disinterest in the idea.
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Post by thekid965 on Apr 20, 2014 12:25:50 GMT -5
Interesting to see how different it looked compared to what eventually made it to air; a clear look at evolution in progress from the ABC to CBS eras. Check out all the yellow and red in this set; I mean, we know Ray was a big wrestling fan, but who could've guessed he was that big a Hulkamaniac? ;^) I kid, I kid...
Also, knowing some of the backstage issues with Feud during this last days of the Dawson run, I can't help but look at that giant "RAY COMBS" sign in the intro as MGP delivering a giant neon middle finger to You-Know-Who. Whoever came up with that idea, I'm glad that didn't survive into the real series. Implications aside, it just looks tacky, like that forced-perspective "FAMILY FEUD" logo on the carpet (which I also never liked one bit). On another note, the sepia-toned video effects are nice and something I would've retained in the finished product.
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Post by Frank on Apr 21, 2014 1:02:03 GMT -5
$10 a point, come on TPTB, Combs pilot had it, you can have it on Harvey.
It seems like there was more than 1 pilot.
It's a shame that Combs left us the way he did. Seems like the doctors failed to give him the help he most desperately needed.
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Post by thekid965 on Apr 21, 2014 12:15:43 GMT -5
It seems like there was more than 1 pilot. That's usually the case when it comes to pilots. They'll do two or three, just to showcase different scenarios and/or provide a greater variety of footage for promotional purposes. To be fair, we understand a lot more about mental illness than we did in 1996 when Ray took his own life. If we'd had that knowledge 18 years ago, who knows? Maybe he could have been saved, or maybe the same thing would've happened anyway. That's one of the worst things about suicide cases... it's almost impossible to know what, if anything, could have changed the outcome. It's a guessing game, one in which we'll never know the definitive answer. 8^/
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Post by Kaos on Apr 21, 2014 18:27:37 GMT -5
This just in from Wink Martindale's vault, a pilot of Shop til You Drop, with a special guest doing the intro.
Hope you like it, and don't forget to comment below.
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Post by Frank on Apr 21, 2014 20:28:55 GMT -5
It's amazing what kind of goodies Wink has shown us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 20:35:01 GMT -5
Awesome! Can't wait to see what he'll have for us next.
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Post by Frank on Apr 21, 2014 20:39:07 GMT -5
yeah I used to think that suicide was the coward's way out, especially the day he decided to finish the deed.
If he were still with us, I'm willing to think he would of been the host of Family Feud in 1999 and still being the host today. It seems like he continues to be forgotten as host of the Feud by casual fans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 20:41:45 GMT -5
Hell, I'd go as far as to say if Ray was still with us, he'd be hosting Price instead of Drew. However, I now believe when most people think of Family Feud, the first name that comes to their mind is either Dawson or Harvey.
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Post by fremantlesucks4eva on Apr 26, 2014 23:34:34 GMT -5
when most people think of Family Feud, the first name that comes to their mind is either Dawson or Harvey. the first name that comes to mind is either Dawson or Harvey?
Correction my friend, the first name that comes to their minds is Harvey giving the middle finger to Dawson, Combs, Anderson, Karn and O'Hurley in general. However, Roker and Lake can be excluded respectively from the argument since they only did celebrity editions anyway.
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Post by Mandoli on Apr 26, 2014 23:41:08 GMT -5
when most people think of Family Feud, the first name that comes to their mind is either Dawson or Harvey. the first name that comes to mind is either Dawson or Harvey? Hi. You don't have to use the paragraph tags. It's not really necessary. Other than that... Yes. Dawson is probably the most known with classic fans. But Harvey is probably the most familiar to those who are just tuning into the show for the first time. They may not know who Dawson is.
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Post by fremantlesucks4eva on Apr 27, 2014 0:26:59 GMT -5
I apologize about the paragraph tags. but back on topic.
Sadly, that may be true (Harvey what I'm talking about) but at the same time, he has also made the show Ghettoly retarded, racist and "Un" Family Friendly as a whole for all nostalgic "TRUE" Feud fans who has grew up on the original Dawson and/or Combs versions by adding and excepting dirty references as answers that's unnecessarly not needed for the show and the franchise. Sure other version may had some unclean answers as well but the hosts knew not to encourage that behavior in their respectful versions until "You-Know-Who" came in. also this is the reason why I stop watching/unaccepting this version since 2010. Let's face the truth here, Fremantle made this once beloved classic into an adult-themed mess when Match Game is the only show that was allowed to do that. In addition, it was also Match Game that has destroy it's "Adult-theme" only humorous content as well with the other three previous short-lived incarnations taking the element from the Rayburn version. But even though Feud is a spin-off of Match Game (bonus round at least) it doesn't need to become a Match Game clone. In other words, Feud is going to continue that route until all other revivals along with their new hosts are going to continue on that tradition in order to let them become one-season flops. also I have nothing against African-American game show host. I'm saying that Harvey comes of more as a playa/pimp along with having a mean-spirited personality that makes Anne Robinson look like a English school teacher in comparison instead of a legitimate host by using slang in his mannerisms and behavior. if Fremantle wanted to get an African-American host they should've gotten David Alan Grier or Cedric the Entertainer as emcee or Heck, I would've accepted Alfonso Ribeiro (a.k.a Carlton Banks) as the emcee but then again Fremantle thinks the way to eat soup properly is by using a fork over a spoon.
Also, Joey Fatone is a terrible Feud announcer, he not even in the studio anyway since he's more of a recording instead of being in the booth at all times. but that is also Fremantle's fault as well.
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